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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018

      Heard about @Elonmusk's rescue "submarine"? The cave-diver who masterminded the Thai cave rescue called it a "PR stunt"—that was the politest thing he said. You might be wondering: well, he tried to help. Let me explain with this thread and this NYT piece. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/opinion/sunday/elon-musk-thailand-hubris.html …pic.twitter.com/MWicaJKaA6

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @elonmusk

      But my point isn't to criticize you for exploring a back-up option (is it still in development with domain experts?) but that the kind of publicity you seek/bring has downsides whatever your intentions may be, and that, broadly, the incredible rescue has broader lessons for tech.

      22 replies 16 retweets 600 likes
    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      Your sub may be an option for other incidents. It takes a lot of effort to find the right config, a lot of slow iterative work (expert cave-divers do something terribly dangerous with so little loss of life because of that) and that's worth thinking about rather than get mad.

      22 replies 9 retweets 455 likes
    5. LudaBeast‏ @MD_PhD_DNP 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      This is hilarious. He isn’t seeking publicity. Launching rockets does that. Saving kids, offering help, looks good for the Red Cross. For Elon, it is him being an altruistic person, not an innovative CEO seeking profit. Improving the world comes before profit for Elon.

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    7. LudaBeast‏ @MD_PhD_DNP 15 Jul 2018

      Fear is complicated. Criticism often stems from fear, although it sometimes raises awareness. @zeynep is acting from fear as is Elon defending. Point is: he tried to help. Who cares what his intentions were? Are they a threat? Nope. He set an example for others with $ to help

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    8. LudaBeast‏ @MD_PhD_DNP 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @MD_PhD_DNP @TakeMyBeer and

      Looking at the big picture, you may realize that your criticism of Elon, true or false, will discourage other wealthy people from offering assistance in times of need. Your fear of his intentions may prevent the rescue of thousands of people in future disasters. Sad, but true.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @MD_PhD_DNP @TakeMyBeer @elonmusk

      What kind of a person would stop trying to help within his/her means just because some person wrote a few words? We're adults here, right? Also, rescuers have serious expertise and methods we all can learn from, and maybe bolster with fast innovation. That's a positive message.

      8:27 AM - 15 Jul 2018
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        1. Mad Scientist So Cool!‏ @ChristopherSaxt 15 Jul 2018
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          What the fuck? You tell him to stop, then criticize the idea of him stopping? You talk all high and mighty, but you're just fishing for more negative shit to print, aren't you?

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