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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018

      Heard about @Elonmusk's rescue "submarine"? The cave-diver who masterminded the Thai cave rescue called it a "PR stunt"—that was the politest thing he said. You might be wondering: well, he tried to help. Let me explain with this thread and this NYT piece. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/14/opinion/sunday/elon-musk-thailand-hubris.html …pic.twitter.com/MWicaJKaA6

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @elonmusk

      But my point isn't to criticize you for exploring a back-up option (is it still in development with domain experts?) but that the kind of publicity you seek/bring has downsides whatever your intentions may be, and that, broadly, the incredible rescue has broader lessons for tech.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          Your sub may be an option for other incidents. It takes a lot of effort to find the right config, a lot of slow iterative work (expert cave-divers do something terribly dangerous with so little loss of life because of that) and that's worth thinking about rather than get mad.

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        3. The Bony Fool‏Verified account @vrunt 15 Jul 2018
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          he’s not mad he’s just being epic

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        2. Arek‏ @ArkadiuszKula 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          Basically you & the 62 year old diver who just advised are jealous that EM brought additional publicity to it.

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        2. Miguel Gurrea‏ @Xene1042 15 Jul 2018
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          Stop it! Just let the f*cking dude live! Can you imagine a huge crowd of people continuously judging and criticizing every detail of your life?!?

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        2. Benjamin Hoppe‏ @mrbenjaminhoppe 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          Tell me exactly how it’s bad for a high profile person like Elon (who regularly shares things he’s working on to his followers) to show people the insanely fast development of a mini sub that could potentially save a group of boys that the whole world was paying attention to?

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        3. Benjamin Hoppe‏ @mrbenjaminhoppe 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @mrbenjaminhoppe @zeynep @elonmusk

          How do you not understand that Elon was sharing the development of the sub to try and give people hope. At first it didn’t look so good for those boys. But because lots of talented people came together, those boys made it out alive. It troubles me that some journalists miss that.

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        1.  💎VashStampede 💎‏ @xianzoe 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          Why is everyone assuming it's all a publicity stunt? I don't get it, was he wrong for posting it on social media? People post shit onto social media all the time but I guess if you are a billionaire who is trying to think of ways to help people you shouldn't.

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        1. Brent‏ @BrentBarto 15 Jul 2018
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          Then, practically, what is your point? Should @elonmusk have refused to give help? How does that possibly improve the situation? Publicity would have followed then too and he would get blamed for refusing to save kids. This is a dumb argument.

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