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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @elonmusk

      So Vern is the diver who was among the first there, dug up the maps, brought in the other divers, figured out where the boys were and convinced authorities. Look beyond your irritation with his irritation and listen for a sec why he might be irritated, ok?https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/13/uk/thai-cave-rescue-british-divers-intl/index.html …

      23 replies 267 retweets 4,643 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      I know you said clearly you'd defer to the divers, and I point that out in my piece. But rescuers hate high profile interventions & VIP visits etc. Quiet, background development is great, publicity is not) because they're also fighting a million officials with own ideas/agendas.+

      7 replies 88 retweets 2,327 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      I was once in the middle of an earthquake rescue with an amazing team. Politest people. Their lives on the line. Humble. Years later, I just don't have words. Literally the biggest problem they faced was local officials, politicians & celebs who butted in. Even if well meaning.+

      10 replies 119 retweets 2,327 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      Officials pull/push actual rescuers. Sub as a back-up option (are people still working on it with domain experts?) is great to explore quietly, but the thing they fear is that an official comes and overrules the rescuers. Try this flashy thing! Happens to disastrous consequence.

      5 replies 53 retweets 1,618 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      We had someone important and famous land with a @#$@!! helicopter to the earthquake zone to "support our work and improve our morale." At that point, we were working round the clock next to a burning refinery and the biggest challenge was establishing silence to listen for life.+

      4 replies 60 retweets 1,496 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      These rescuers I had been working, who were so humble, polite and expert—and who accepted everything and just worked and worked at great risk to themselves, climbing into rubble in the middle of 6.5+ aftershocks.. I learned more English curse words that day than since or before.+

      4 replies 30 retweets 1,212 likes
    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      I've too-long for Twitter stories on how hard it was to keep officials on track and from meddling wrongly. Anyway, the lesson I took is that publicity—even well-meaning—and anything flashy that officials might be attracted to during a rescue is dangerous. Many stories like that.+

      3 replies 40 retweets 1,186 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

      Take from all this, my piece, my thread, his irritation what you want, but we're all human and my two-cents is that too many people blindly cheer-on wealthy/famous people, and want saviors, and we're all worse off for it, and the wealthy famous people perhaps worst. /end

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        2. Mark Szabo‏ @marrkszabo 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          And what did YOU do to help? How dare you criticize somebody who tried to help? And btw Elon was ASKED to help, here on twitter. So this already rules out PR stunt.

          3 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
        3. Michael Leone‏ @MichaelJLeone 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @marrkszabo @zeynep @elonmusk

          Terrible argument. She has exp in disaster zones n is sharing knowledge. If he’s so great he can handle critiques. Enough hero worship.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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        2. Jacklyn‏ @JackLynLeeOtt 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          You say you are not being critical but you are. You call this rescue vessel a "contraption" and insinuate Elon Musk came on scene to override the rescue effort. I get your point of letting experts do their job, but this was another tool to use if all else failed and all hope lost

          2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @JackLynLeeOtt @elonmusk

          I am being critical! The piece and the thread are critical, trying to explain a something that goes beyond this incident. As I repeatedly said, it's great to want to help, it's also great to learn the best methods, practices and what works and how. Dissect everything, improve.

          4 replies 1 retweet 40 likes
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        2. Renee‏ @paix120 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          Incredible response, @zeynep. Thank you for your efforts here.

          2 replies 0 retweets 89 likes
        3. amensteppa‏ @amensteppa 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @paix120 @zeynep @elonmusk

          Seconded, thank you.

          1 reply 0 retweets 11 likes
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        2. P  🇮🇪 #WhatAMess‏ @PMc276 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          Pedo guy, That’s beyond offensive

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        3. Hold My PomPoms Bitches‏ @Scattered211 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @PMc276 @zeynep @elonmusk

          Did musk delete it?

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        2. stop murdering people  ✨‏ @hakusaro 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @elonmusk

          If you ask the kids who were rescued whether or not they would want one of the most successful Silicon Valley engineering teams trying to rescue them for free, what would they say?

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        3. Jonathan‏ @jonblatho 15 Jul 2018
          Replying to @hakusaro @zeynep @elonmusk

          they probably don’t care who does it as long as it’s done?

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