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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018

      As humans we do a lot of dangerous things—some for fun (like climbing or cave-diving!) and some routinely as part of modern life (drive, fly, factories, medicine) etc. Many more mature industries and sports have extensive experience in iterative, long-term learning in safety.

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018

      There is obviously a lot of smart and creative people in tech, but they suffer from an Achilles Heel trio of weaknesses: self-perceived idealism as excuse, overconfidence in their capabilities outside their own areas of expertise, and lack of attentiveness to details and harms.

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018

      In contrast, people like those top cave-divers who found & rescued the boys (their technical achievement & bravery is one for the ages) come from an opposite culture that is no less innovative but very very different. It's also quite modest so that hides the amazing nature of it.

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018

      Stanton and Volanthen—who first made it to the boys and shot the remarkable video of them huddling in jerseys—brushed off media while first entering the cave, refusing to give interviews and just said “we’ve got a job to do.” Volanthen went back to work day after rescue.🤷‍♀️

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    5. Bertil Hatt‏ @bertil_hatt 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      Your point is that people in tech should refuse to do interviews because journalists are… ? I’m not sure, actually.

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    6. Dan Bennett‏ @__stillPoint 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @bertil_hatt @zeynep

      I can't speak for @zeynep, but my reading is: Silicon Valley often has a culture of hype-seeking and a "move fast and break stuff" doctrine. All that can be actively obstructive in cases like this. So SV can learn from this modest, serious, risk-grounded hype-averse ethic.

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    7. Bertil Hatt‏ @bertil_hatt 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @__stillPoint @zeynep

      SV, or at least the successful companies, have a very extensive process for code verification. You praise airliners but you forget how many delays, gare changes, lost luggage’s they deem acceptable.

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    8. Dan Bennett‏ @__stillPoint 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @bertil_hatt @zeynep

      Let's make a distinction between local engineering decisions & in-the-market behaviour. We don't have equivalent of code verification for social & ecosystemic effects. These guys have those processes. Musk didn't engage w people who cld help w that. That's what could be learned.

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    9. Dan Bennett‏ @__stillPoint 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @__stillPoint @bertil_hatt @zeynep

      The code inside that sub was no doubt watertight. The domain experts are on record as saying the way that the sub related to the ecosystem was absolutely not.

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    10. Bertil Hatt‏ @bertil_hatt 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @__stillPoint @zeynep

      Musk did communicate with someone who he thought was on the ground. All SV companies hire UX researchers to do the same. Data analytics has less empathy, but does the same. Claiming otherwise is just denying the existence of not one but two entire lines of work.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 15 Jul 2018
      Replying to @bertil_hatt @__stillPoint

      It's actually not a good idea to use one's billionnaire reach to communicate with the top diver whose time was the most precious resource in that rescue. At the time, he's going to say "sure, go for it." He's a Brit, and the rescue looked hopeless and you're promising a rocket.

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