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    zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Jun 2018

    zeynep tufekci Retweeted Ken Dilanian

    Folks, conversations occur between people. If the other party turns over the conversation (or has phone confiscated without deleting messages) there is no encryption solution to this. Also that has nothing to do with Signal. Or encryption, really. 🙄https://twitter.com/kendilaniannbc/status/1004918342698852358 …

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    Ken DilanianVerified account @KenDilanianNBC
    Everyone who relies on Signal should take note that Signal conversations are referenced in the Wolfe indictment.
    7:47 AM - 8 Jun 2018
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      2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Jun 2018

        Something similar with Manafort: he sent messages and the recipients turned them over. In his case, he was also backing them up to iCloud in plaintext (🤷‍♀️) but the key point is the same. If the other party isn’t willing to/can’t keep your secret, encryption is not relevant.

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      3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Jun 2018

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        Makes post-hoc discovery hard/impossible but there’s always screenshots. Encryption isn’t a magic amnesia potion https://twitter.com/samueloakford/status/1005099576603357184 …

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      4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 8 Jun 2018

        zeynep tufekci Retweeted thaddeus e. grugq

        If you’re messaging people, you’re messaging people. Encryption is to thwart easy mass surveillance from a distance. Is noy relevant to all the other issues. Does not make them magically disappear!https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1005107869702750208 …

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        thaddeus e. grugq @thegrugq
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        @samueloakford ephemeral messaging is to keep your own device clean. Once you have sent a message it is no longer in your control and there’s nothing you can do about except proactive minimization of the utility of the: message; content, and metadata.
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      1. Proud European from Austria 🇪🇺 🇦🇹  🌏‏ @e2dot7182818284 8 Jun 2018
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      1. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn 8 Jun 2018
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        The replies 🤦‍♂️

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      2. William Bennett‏ @wirabennett 8 Jun 2018
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        But screen shots?

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      1. James Harlow‏ @hythloday 8 Jun 2018
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        Wait, you mean even if I tell someone secrets through Signal, they can still tell other people those secrets? Huge if true.

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      1. Andreas Thiemann‏ @tea_mann 8 Jun 2018
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        Makes sense 😏

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      2. Tim (16'h3904)‏ @bjt2n3904 8 Jun 2018
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        TL;DR - Three can keep a secret if two are dead.

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      3. rogerman‏ @rogerman99 9 Jun 2018
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        Putin's 2nd Maxim.

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