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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018

      Things that we know works: Do write almost every day, even if a little. Set aside time and stick to it. Have rituals. Team up with friends/other writers. Don't wait for inspiration, magic, instructions from paid coach or deadline. Write, edit, rewrite, edit, rewrite, write.😀

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    2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018

      Writing "secrets": 1-There's no shortcut to edit/rewrite/edit/rewrite. Accept this and do it! 2-Clarity of ideas and something to say is the bedrock of writing and no coach will solve that. If you have money to burn, donate to refugee support? Take that good feeling, and write.😀

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    3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018

      zeynep tufekci Retweeted david rubien

      No, no, no. I swear I'm not fishing for compliments but I am NOT a good or natural writer. English is not even my native language! I went through the "what's trick find me a coach" phase. Then I met and learned from real writers. They do what I said above.https://twitter.com/dubiousraves/status/1003984999631196160 …

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      david rubien @dubiousraves
      Replying to @zeynep
      Seems to be some projection going on here. You are a good writer, so you think it should be snap for everyone else. Not so. Writing can be tough, and good coaching can help clear hurdles. There are worse things people can spend money on.
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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018

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      Rigid writing advice/coaching, crash diet industry, real estate webinars... The only exception I would make is hiring a fitness trainer if you’re starting out—just to show you what good form looks like. But do vigorously ignore all rigid writing advice. 😀 https://twitter.com/tommygoldsmith/status/1003987369186521089 …

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    5. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      The best in the world at almost everything have coaches and mentors. For sure bad advice and bad coaching is bad, but “all coaching is worthless” is equally bad advice. Dunno why you’re pushing this so hard?

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    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @ddn

      I didn’t say all coaching. Sports coaching is great. Writing? Land of snake-oil. 😬

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    7. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      It seems that way because you’re not familiar with all the snake oil in sports and athletics. It’s the same thing. Writing coaching can be invaluable, as much it can be worthless.

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    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @ddn

      I am! Lifelong exerciser. One of my most read articles is about snake oil in the fitness industry! 💪It’s the one I make an exception for, because good sports coaching is at least possible! I see a lot of rigid, useless writing advice and I was responding to another round of it.

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    9. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep

      looks like a great piece at a glance. Be that as it may, I think good writing coaching is no different than good coaching in anything else. It’s hard to find, and you’ll pay for it. The rest is rigid, useless, and worthless - as you say.

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    10. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @ddn

      What I responded to was rigid instructions/guidelines being discussed. So many words for day, only that many words for day, not more, not less, etc. 🙄 That's straight up snake-oil—charitable interpretation is someone passing off their own rigidities/issues as writing advice.

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      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @ddn

      As for writing coaching: after years of being embedded in communities of people who *do* write a lot (and no experience writing before) what I saw was that successfull writers wildly differ. But they all write/rewrite/edit/rewrite a lot. I think hiring editors is a good idea.

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        2. David Dellanave‏Verified account @ddn 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @zeynep

          I definitely agree with you on all those points. And those are parallel with all coaching I’ve experienced. Plenty of fitness coaches pass off their rigid dogma as advice. Maybe I over-read but it seemed like you were throwing all writing coaching out with the bath water.

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        3. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 5 Jun 2018
          Replying to @ddn

          Honestly, I can’t really imagine paid coaching for writing being useful beyond fairly basic stuff—let alone rigid guidelines. But maybe there are some hidden gems that no something beyond the many many many writing help books that all say the same thing? Skeptical but okay.

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