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Complex systems, wicked problems. Society, technology, science and more. @UNC professor. @NYTimes columnist. My newsletter is @insight: http://www.theinsight.org 

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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018

      So if a Facebook friend of yours had the Facebook app on *their* phone, Facebook shared *YOUR* private data with device-makers, even if you had somehow managed to turn off third-party sharing. "Sorry, not sorry" apology coming in 3, 2, 1. 💰💰💰 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/03/technology/facebook-device-partners-users-friends-data.html …pic.twitter.com/0tSkfWqY17

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    2. Meta‏Verified account @Meta 4 Jun 2018
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      Hi @Zeynep. Interested in your thoughts here: You can import Gmail, Yahoo! Mail, Outlook, etc. onto your iPhone -- see attached screenshot. This means if you send an email to someone’s Gmail, there’s a good chance they’ll read it on Apple’s app.pic.twitter.com/PgD6pwOa5U

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    3. Meta‏Verified account @Meta 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Meta @zeynep

      Part of giving people control over their data means enabling them to take their information with them on other services (open platforms vs walled gardens). So you can get your Facebook on B’berry or your Gmail on iPhone. What do you feel is different with these FB integrations?

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    4. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @Meta @Facebook

      Couple of things--has to do with the nature of your business, the information you hold and consent (but that doesn't mean what everyone else does is okay.) So let's walk through a few.

      1 reply 14 retweets 92 likes
    5. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

      First, device-integrated API is an example of moving too fast at the expense of slower, more privacy-sensitive approaches. But either way, there is lack of clarity on who has access to what kind of information and that matters most for you because you hold sensitive information.

      2 replies 8 retweets 96 likes
    6. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

      Second, if Facebook wasn't going to be a walled garden, and be a platform where people could take their data, it *had to be under clear consent & explanation.* You let apps and devices access data, and sometimes friends' data, but not at al clear to end-user. Hence the backlash.

      1 reply 10 retweets 117 likes
    7. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

      For OS integration, the question is interest-alignment. We trust our devices with a lot, and while Apple is not perfect, they have largely aligned privacy interests with their users. Android, I gave up because I cannot manage to turn off Google tracking despite much trying. 🙄

      5 replies 9 retweets 90 likes
    8. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
      Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

      I use Google's app to read email, but I understand some people have Apple's app. We just hope that Apple won't read all that and compile a profile on us—and I wish we had more than Apple's word—but Apple doesn't have a business model that's based on profiling and targeting us.

      4 replies 9 retweets 118 likes
    9. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
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      Facebook has sensitive data that is unlike any other platform (maybe closest is Google), has confused the hell out of most users (including me) on what gets collected, visibility and privacy (Zuck got confused while testifying) and, until recently, seemed to not erase much.

      1 reply 12 retweets 108 likes
      zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
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      Facebook cannot simultaneously aspire to be the connective social fabric online (the platform era!) and have this business model which misaligns its interests with users' and be this muddled about privacy and sharing--and not have us wary of what happens with our data.

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        2. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 Jun 2018
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          zeynep tufekci Retweeted Michael LaForgia

          If NYT got details wrong, by all means, correct them. Also, what's going on here? The more you explain, the less we'll all be confused.https://twitter.com/laforgia_/status/1003619319736143872 …

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          Michael LaForgiaVerified account @laforgia_
          We wanted to learn more about what kinds of data Facebook makes available to “partners” that manufacture phones and other devices.
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        3. Hang Solo‏ @BrickyardSlim 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

          Weird, where did @Facebook go?

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        1. Reggie‏ @ReggieHalstrom 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

          THIS!!!!!!! I loved @Facebook for a long time, but as more apps appeared and everything was targeted towards delivering me ads, I started to use it less and less. I maybe check my page once a day and move on.

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        1. ((( Kevin Karhan )))  🛡️ #PNCHNZS 24/7!‏ @k3vk4 4 Jun 2018
          Replying to @zeynep @Facebook

          also I do know that #Facebook has - against my consent - collected data about me. Must I first file a court order banning Facebook from collecting my data using 3rd party devices and services? Or ain't #GDPR regulations enough?

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