This was a topic I wanted to talk about related to art and super smart math people. Ever notice how supposedly awesome math people can't draw what they see? I always wondered why that is. I mean, it's just an application of practical optics, so you'd think they could do it.https://twitter.com/raganwald/status/1236697625715490820 …
A good analogy is imagine it's 500 years ago and not everyone knows how to read. Wealthy educated people do, and they make sure their kids spend hundreds of hours learning to read, but when you want to read they go: "Here read this Chaucer in 4 minutes and if you can't GFYS."
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So, I believe that super smart math types can easily learn to paint and draw, but belief keeps them from realizing that it's just an exercise in practical optics. It's not magic. Basically, people who can paint and draw just spent the 100 hour necessary to learn "to read".
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Color is tricky because there is a genetic/biological component that makes it harder for some people, but the weird trick is: If you're color blind you might be *better* at drawing. Basically, color confuses the brain when drawing, so you have an advantage.
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So, when people talk about "Dunning-Kreuger" this and that, they really don't talk about how they evaluate competence. From programming and art I can tell you they're terrible at it, and social norms and beliefs end up distorting skill and potential, even *in the student*.
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Finally, I've found a lot of the way someone's skill is evaluated has nothing to do with raw talent and more to do with knowing cliches of genres. You aren't a good programmer unless YouKnowCamelCase and unit tests. You're not a good painter unless you paint like Rembrandt.
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