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Zed A. Shaw, Painter
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Zed A. Shaw, Painter

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Personal artistic explorations in pigment. Follow @lzsthw is for http://learncodethehardway.com  programming books and code stuff.

Miami Beach, FL
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    1. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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      I'd say this article sums up a lot of my experience being a programmer learning to paint as well: http://nautil.us/issue/32/space/men-are-better-at-maps-until-women-take-this-course … It seems biological differences don't really matter as long as there's good training available, but also this:https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/02/huge-study-finds-professors-attitudes-affect-students-grades/ …

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    2. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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      The second study shows that if a professor *thinks* you can't improve (say, because you are genetically pre-disposed to suck and that's the end of it), then you'll get lower grades. Obviously the students aren't really changing so it's the professor's bias.

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    3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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      Another aspect of this is most STEM and Art college courses are designed for people who can already do that thing pretty well. They assume the student has been doing it since they were young, had parents who did it, etc so they don't even bother with training true beginners.

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    4. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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      When you look at a lot of research on whether there's a biological predisposition toward nearly anything you never see them attempt to...train it away. It's always, "haha! see? I told you girls suck at math!" There's no study that goes "if you suck at math, this course fixes it

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    5. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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      When someone does attempt to "fix" an untrained skill with a proper training system it totally fixes the supposed genetically predisposed brain deficiency. It's almost as if...and bear with me here...like...smart people can learn new things? I might be crazy though.

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      Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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      In my case I experienced this with artists. In fact, I would do little studies of this when I could. If I told them I was a programmer they immediately acted like all my art sucked, no matter how good or bad it was actually. How do I know this? LOL, listen to this:

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        2. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          When someone would email me saying my art sucks I'd send them my very best drawing and say, "Yeah, can you do better than that?" They'd send me back something with flaws, but ALSO rip into my drawing with a critique. "It seems timid. Looks amateurish." Etc.

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        3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          Problem is, I wasn't sending them a drawing I did. I was sending them a drawing from one my teachers who is WAY more accomplished and better at drawing than both of us. The *belief* that it was my drawing--a programmer's--made them see it as full of flaws. There's more.

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        4. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          Another test I'd do is use some form of cheating to do the drawing. My favorite is a camera lucida, which gets it about as perfect as you could, or copy a photo. I know for a *fact* the drawing is dead accurate because science. But, I'd send that to the "experts" and...

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        5. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          "This is the wrong perspective. That tree over there can't possibly be that tall. There's no way you'd see two light sources like that." Nope, can't tell perspective on trees and it's through a fucking perfect lens on a $10k camera brosniff. Did you forget there's clouds?

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        6. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          The final experiment was that I'd just take a photo and put it through one of those photo->painting algorithms and *still* they'd find "errors" because I'm a programmer. Meanwhile, they'd send me paintings full of errors, or gush endlessly over other artists full or "errors".

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        7. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          I'd also notice that if I didn't tell a teacher I was a programmer they treated me better. One teacher learned I was a programmer about 1/2 through, then at the end of the class told me I should stop doing art. Problem was, at the beginning he was showing my work to the class.

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        8. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          The gist of it is, these art teachers were treating me much the same way a lot of douchebags in STEM treat women. Their belief was that it was impossible for a programmer to learn to paint because I didn't have a "natural talent", which is similar to genetic predisposition.

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        9. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          All it takes is a decent training method and turns out painting isn't that hard. Just need to learn a few concepts and practice them like anything else out there. The real reason people are unable to learn it is all of the teaching and training assumes they can already do it.

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        10. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          And, that teacher's predisposed beliefs *that* you will suck are easily confirmed because they're the teachers and have control. I sucked at drawing because I was told to draw 100 spheres months while other people went right on to cast drawing. Anyone would fail at that.

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        11. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          This is one of the reasons why I advocate completely open and fully planned and complete curriculum with facilitators over teachers acting as gate keepers. A static course can't suddenly change to weed out undesirables and then be different for the chosen ones.

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        12. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          A static course can be analyzed and any discrimination and bias is exposed easily and removed. A racist or sexist teacher just gets to keep being racist or sexist until they die of tenure.

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        13. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 9 Apr 2019
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          Note: I do sell paintings, I also give them to people who I see could use some cheering up. If you've had some personal tragedy lately and would like one, DM me. Just pay the shipping and it's yours. Take a look: https://www.instagram.com/zedshaw/ 

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