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Zed A. Shaw, Painter
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Zed A. Shaw, Painter

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Personal artistic explorations in pigment. Follow @lzsthw is for http://learncodethehardway.com  programming books and code stuff.

Miami Beach, FL
Joined June 2008

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    1. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      You know, the marketing for artist instructional media is kind of odd compared to a lot of other marketing. Here's some copy that typifies it, and I have some ideas why this works vs. what you get from other products, and how it's a lot like workout supplements:pic.twitter.com/uOEd6YFrRR

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    2. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      Art educational videos have this same pattern of "this ONE trick will CHANGE your life!" The videos never have ONE trick, it's mostly just a dude painting for 2 hours so it's full of tons of information, and there's almost zero instruction. Like I said, just painting.

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    3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      A lot of the wording talks about secrets, and have this magical quality that, should you purchase this video, the magic will be transmitted to you. They never have any magic or real tricks. Most painters can't explain how they do what they do at all.

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    4. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      The "tricks" and "magic" in the actual videos are almost always downplayed too. 60% of them use photos, but don't talk about it much at all unless the video is about photos. They're also terrible at photography and lack the vocabulary so they rarely explain it well.

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    5. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      In many ways the marketing is similar to the marketing of supplements for weight lifting. This one MAGIC powder will make you look like this crazy jacked dude named Chad! Oh except Chad actually has been taking steroids for 20 years but they don't mention that...shhhhh.

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    6. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      The marketing for Bootcamps is also similar but in a very different way. Bootcampls for programming will tout how their 3 month class will prepare an art major for a 250k salary job at Facebook with their MAGIC curriculum. Of course, that never actually works.

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    7. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      I think the primary difference with the art instruction marketing is the expectations of the people who do this kind of art, and the demographic of the buyers. As I've said before, when I go to art conferences it is 90% women over 50, 80% over 65. I'm not joking at all.

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      Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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      Demographic for some protein powder is men and women ages 18-35 most likely. Demographic for bootcamps is men and women ages 18-35 most likely. This impacts the expectations of the buyer:

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        2. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          65 yo artist probably doesn't need to have a job in art, so just enjoying it as a post-retirement hobby is enough, so the marketing focuses more on better art, and a little on sales. 65 yo artist is also most likely behind the curve and running out of time, so secret tricks work

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        3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          In the supplement market they're usually using models who just do steroids, and then claim the powder is what makes them that huge. The target market is basically people who don't know these dudes are juicing like mad to look like that, and also, people who are professionals.

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        4. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          The coding bootcamps are aimed squarely at people who did what they were told and got a 120k degree is psychology or abstract expressionist painting and now realize they can't do a damn thing to pay that back, so they're desperate to buy their way into a profession that pays.

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        5. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          So when they market the videos, they're shooting for people who mostly *want* to be hobbyists, would love to sell but don't expect it, are retired, and just feel they missed out on secret tricks of the masters. The marketing pitches them all the secrets in 2 hours, and it works.

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        6. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          I'm not in that demographic, and I'm a nerd hacker type, so I look at this and go "pfft. nothing's magic." Then I go look up the artist and if I like the art, I get the video just because I like watching people paint. I think maybe 2-3 videos were packed with useful things, but

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        7. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          90% of the time, what the painter *says* is completely different from what they *do*. They are completely lacking in self-awareness so you mostly have to ignore what they say and just watch them work and take notes or follow along. Guitarists are like this too.

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        8. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          I had a teacher who would quite literally yell at people not to "blend". In classical realism "blending" or "smudging" is a huge NO, so we had to struggle using a brush to put down color and merge the edges without blending them with a softer brush. Turns out...

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        9. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          This teacher did that shit all the time. She never demonstrated in class when she painted, but she sold videos. In class you'd miss her quickly blending an edge because she was quick about it, but in the video...GOTCHA! In the video like 50% of her brush work was blending.

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        10. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          Then I got videos from other famous painters and they all blended like mad, and about 50% of them would rant about blending, which I didn't understand because it's obvious old masters blended the fuck out of their paintings--aka "licking".

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        11. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 25 Feb 2019
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          So, after that experience I realized that you just ignore musicians and painters when they tell you what they do. They're basically shallow people who have no idea what they're doing and are mostly just lucky. You have to watch them work and copy what they actually do.

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