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Zed A. Shaw, Painter
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Personal artistic explorations in pigment. Follow @lzsthw is for http://learncodethehardway.com  programming books and code stuff.

Miami Beach, FL
Joined June 2008

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    1. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      Very interesting article on Empathy-Systematizing brain differences in autism vs. control of half a million people" https://www.pnas.org/content/115/48/12152 … Most of the correlations have a P < 2.2 × 10^−16 which is very insane. There's also this very interesting paragraph:pic.twitter.com/RnLkaiApAf

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    2. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      Affective empathy I guess is emotional empathy: feeling the same emotion as another person; feeling distress at another's plight; feeling compassion for other people. Cognitive empathy is basically mind reading, or being able to know the contents of someone else's mind.

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    3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      What they're saying is that people with autism still have emotional empathy--meaning they still feel other people's emotions--they just lack *cognitive empathy*, so they have no idea why other people feel that way, and as far as I can tell this paper only tests the latter.

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    4. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      This paragraph suggests that sociopaths are the inverse of autism: They have cognitive empathy--so they can read people's minds--but lack the emotional empathy necessary to feel what other people feel or sympathize with them.

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    5. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      The other interesting aspect of this is how the crazy P < 2.2*10^-16 correlation is with sex differences, and how Empathy is inversely correlated with Systematizing. In a weird way, demanding people be more empathic might be like demanding someone just stop being schizophrenic.

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    6. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      So, based on my idea that lead poisoning in children causes narcissism and sociopathy, it could still hold. What can't hold is the idea that sociopathy and autism are "linked". This suggests they're more inverse conditions of the same type with probably different causes?

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    7. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      Another thought is that, if it's so important to learn empathy (and everyone saying that seems to not know there's two types or that compassion is part of it ...as they tell people to commit suicide for a tweet) then it's important for empaths to learn systematizing.

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    8. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      Finally, it would seem then that being in the balanced range--being able to do both empathy and systematizing--is the optimal position, and that anyone advocating for the superiority of empathy is advocating for a brain that isn't balanced.

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      Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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      Now, what if learning to code is a great way for empaths to learn systematic thinking; but learning to paint is a great way for systematizers to learn empathy? Actually, why the fuck is art considered some path to empathy? That by itself would need reevaluation.

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        2. microarchitectural side-channel attacks‏ @DLitz 21 Feb 2019
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          Just make them use a platform with a terribly-designed API that is also buggy. If that doesn't teach someone empathy, I don't know what will :p

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        3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 21 Feb 2019
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          FALSE! Given that all APIs are terribly designed and buggy your proposal would demonstrate an increase in empathy thus *lowering* the number of APIs that are buggy which is a contradiction at P<2.2*10^-300!

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        1. Nellie‏ @NelliesNoodles 21 Feb 2019
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          Agreed!

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        2. Joshua Ballanco‏ @manhattanmetric 24 Feb 2019
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          I don’t think this study invalidates your suspicion that psychopathy and autism are linked...and I think this for the same reason I DO believe that painting might help learned empathy. The key is mirror neurons.

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        3. Joshua Ballanco‏ @manhattanmetric 25 Feb 2019
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          In fact, thinking about it some more, I wonder how much of the current "autism crisis" could be attributed to a decline in creative pursuits? Painting/sculpting/music/etc. exercises mirror neurons, which are critical for empathy, but we don't do as much of that anymore...

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