To learn to read/write at a journalist level you have to study many authors and literature. To code you need to at least get through algebra, maybe calc, or learn those through ode. To play 1 instrument you have to learn music history too. That covers a huge set of classics.
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Replying to @zedshaw
I feel its still kinda poor because it leaves you with no physics or chemistry, or biology (other than anatomy, for painting) - or even economics and history - you'd cover a bit for journalism, but not enough. And you kind of need those for a basic grasp of reality.
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Replying to @MadAlice10_6_2
Sure, there's not a lot of direct science, but you're forgetting that painting includes chemistry (make your own paint, pigments) and physics (optics could be an entire semester through replicating old masters like vermeer's optics tricks). Not to mention astronomy.
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Replying to @zedshaw
Theoretically so, sure, but I've painted thousands of portraits and never used astronomy. And landscapes. Starry night skies. Know nothing about it. And I feel the theory of evolution, climate science and probability are extremely important - so we survive ourselves.
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Replying to @MadAlice10_6_2
Not to mention that a *ton* of early scientists all used many of these optics devices. Kepler used camera obscuras. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Herschel … used a camera lucida. That leads into photography, optics, light, physics, and astronomy.
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Sure, a lot of new science comes from unlikely places, but your education suggestion means those things wouldnt be used for science. They'd be used for art, and philosophy. A purpose shapes a tool a lot.
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Replying to @MadAlice10_6_2
I think you must of missed the programming on the list because nobody thinks learning to code makes artists or philosophers, but it does train in logic and math and probably will have more impact on scientific thought and analysis than you think.
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Replying to @zedshaw
I like the addition of programing, but I feel it leaves large areas untouched -that we *urgently* need.
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Replying to @MadAlice10_6_2
I think we disagree strongly on one point: I am solidly against using education to indoctrinate children so they vote for a particular political party or believe in a specific agenda. Doing so is a narcissistic violation of their right to free will and causes suffering.
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Replying to @zedshaw
We don't disagree on that -I'm not advocating for polotical indoctrination. I feel we might disagree on which subjects constitute political indoctrination, tho. Perhaps because of how they're tought?
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Not really. I think if you're thinking you're going to teach K-12 kids some magic topic that will save the world you're going to damage them with impossible expectations at best, and indoctrinate them into being mindless zombies at worst.
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I'd love nothing more than have happy kids who get to decide their future, but none opf our kids gets that. Because we fucked up. And they have to fix it, or die. It's not ideological, or impossible, it's unevitable. And I disagree that knowledge is a burden.
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