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Zed A. Shaw, Painter
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Zed A. Shaw, Painter

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Personal artistic explorations in pigment. Follow @lzsthw is for http://learncodethehardway.com  programming books and code stuff.

Miami Beach, FL
Joined June 2008

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    1. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 24 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @MadAlice10_6_2

      Sure, there's not a lot of direct science, but you're forgetting that painting includes chemistry (make your own paint, pigments) and physics (optics could be an entire semester through replicating old masters like vermeer's optics tricks). Not to mention astronomy.

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    2. The Cat Farm‏ @MadAlice10_6_2 24 Dec 2018
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      Theoretically so, sure, but I've painted thousands of portraits and never used astronomy. And landscapes. Starry night skies. Know nothing about it. And I feel the theory of evolution, climate science and probability are extremely important - so we survive ourselves.

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    3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 24 Dec 2018
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      Have you seen Tim's Vermeer? https://sonyclassics.com/timsvermeer/  Just because *you* learned to paint portraits one way doesn't mean that you can't teach it in a way that doesn't involve optics, and the physics of light passing through glass covers a huge amount of physics and astronomy.

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    4. The Cat Farm‏ @MadAlice10_6_2 24 Dec 2018
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      Oh, I have, and I dont dispute you can, and will, learn a lot, about stuff you never dreamed you might. I still think its inadequate as the *sole* education, if our species is to survive.

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    5. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 24 Dec 2018
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      "if our species is to survive." Yeahhhhhh, I think kids have quite enough pressure and wouldn't want to then add on that them learning biology is somehow going to save the human race. That's just cruel. But, to your point...add one science to the list. Which?

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    6. The Cat Farm‏ @MadAlice10_6_2 24 Dec 2018
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      Hm. Evolutionary biology, I guess. It covers a lot of psychology, biology, endocrinology, sociology, history, some scientific concepts, and gives a grasp of research analysis.

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    7. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 24 Dec 2018
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      It's also where racists go to claim white people are superior so....nope that's not a good one at all.

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    8. The Cat Farm‏ @MadAlice10_6_2 24 Dec 2018
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      Oh. Yes, I see. I might have gotten a good one -that recognized the biases of almost every "intelligence" or "race" or "sex" metric he mentioned -and rejected them as not useful. If we can reform our evo biology through corrective social lenses, would u be up for it?

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    9. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 24 Dec 2018
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      Not really because it's also based on shitty science with little replication.

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    10. The Cat Farm‏ @MadAlice10_6_2 24 Dec 2018
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      Which one would you pick, if you had to?

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      Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 24 Dec 2018
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      I don't know, probably chemistry. I think that covers everything from making computers to anything you need in med school.

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        2. The Cat Farm‏ @MadAlice10_6_2 25 Dec 2018
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          ...what med school? You don't have a med school. You get anatomy at the 18th century level from art, and you're done. Chemistry won't help you much, as your doctors won't know biology, endocrionology, or psychology enough to use it. Your system gets us no doctors.

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        3. Zed A. Shaw, Painter‏ @zedshaw 27 Dec 2018
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          Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this is for K-12. I say K-12, and you start thinking of all the things a student needs to know after 8 years of med school. You're going to have to stay on the topic.

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