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I believe it about cell carriers & OS via opt-in. But why would manufacturers get it? I'm feeling skeptical on that without seeing more details.

A. Because they can. B. It’s likely *very occasionally* useful for troubleshooting.

Can someone drop some vendor names here? Still very skeptical on this

Thanks, I guess I meant which vendors are receiving and *selling* “anonymized” and deanonymized location information, not which vendors run code. LocationSmart - yeah they buy telco data which has no opt out. Does Qualcomm sell assistive gps data? That’s news to me.

I don't see into this, but if you'd like a specific example of a 'trustworthy' company selling customer data, check Avast (antivirus - protects you while spying on you) and Jumpshot (sells your web browsing data to businesses, even raw clickstreams). It's a same company.

While we're on that tangent, we've got AdBlock owned by an Ad company. https://eyeo.com/ , claiming they can manage the conflict of interest. But then people wonder why tools like uBlock Origin stop facebook cross-device tracking, out of the box but AdBlock doesn't.

Wow missed this one. I believe you (ad(d)s up) but source?

No, no...but if we rake Zuck over the coals and pass GDPR, everything will be fine. Or perhaps the privacy discussion is just security theater given the realities of smartphone ubiquity and it's really about people accepting the fact their privacy has been gone for years now.

Huh? It’s not “just” security theater. It’s good and necessary steps.

I'm not anti-privacy protections by any stretch but most talk about protecting 'personal user data' and such is either an irrelevance given realities of bulk data collection, or a deliberate misdirection.

A clear example is the controlled debate around privacy in planned smart cities. Good work on this being done by @biancawylie re: Google's waterfront development in Toronto.

But this is not either/or. Privacy has many vectors.

Also, law is enforceable. Whether or not it is enforced is a separate issue, one that can be easily remedied. Fatalism about current state isn't dispositive of future state.

OT sounds pretty dispositively fatalistic about the future to me. “Privacy is gone”? The future, near or far, is not immutable.https://twitter.com/antoniogm/status/997038480449388544 …

At least google is semi open about it - http://myactivity.google.com  and you can see the map of where you’ve been each day...

“Android crapware” haha Nobody who cares about privacy would be using android not that iOS is immune but better than android

Qualcomm WTR5975 LTE transceiver. Thats the radio chip in iPhone X. Since Qualcomm bakes location tracking in.. Unless you have a StingRay device to verify every packet I wouldnt trust any mobile device. Assume all report your location at the least. Ref:https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/996893114445979648 …