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Founder/CEO @ http://Stedi.com  (modern EDI platform) & previously Proforged (acq by Huron Capital), future-enthusiast, occasional blogger, all-around nerd.

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    Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter 12 Nov 2017
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    Honest question. Is there any precedent for a company w $Bs in revenue & a Tesla-like NPS going under bc of mismanagement (which is basically what this article suggests)? https://seekingalpha.com/article/4122890-tesla-approaches-terminal-decline …

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      1. Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter 12 Nov 2017
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        Bears are right, to some extent. There are a lot of problems at Tesla (turnover, burn, delays). But I’m not sure I buy the “and so its days are numbered” conclusion.

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      1. Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter 12 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @kaigradert

        There are a lot of great, valid points that Tesla bears are making - regardless of any conflicts. Tesla has problems. Doesn’t mean they are existential.

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      2. Leo Polovets‏ @lpolovets 12 Nov 2017
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        Bill Gurley talks about how much consumers love companies that sell dollars for 80 cents. E.g. Webvan had a great NPS (but I don't think they ever had high revenue). Maybe something else that's overfunded in the consumer space, where overfunding leads to negative margins?

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      3. Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter 12 Nov 2017
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        True. But doesn’t seem like cars are underpriced...the compelling bear cases I’ve read aren’t about negative gross margin. More about inability to scale and huge cash burn.

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      2. Larry McKeogh‏ @lmckeogh 12 Nov 2017
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        Take a look at Nokia. Management errors caused them to slide in technical advantage and consequently market share.

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      3. Kurt Elia‏ @kurtelia 13 Nov 2017
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        RIM/Blackberry too, but I wouldn’t say they ever had the same faving fans in their customer base that Apple and Tesla do

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      1. VisArch‏ @ruthmalan 12 Nov 2017
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        "eager to seek indulgence by way of green-washing"...

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      2. Tom Bielecki‏ @tombielecki 12 Nov 2017
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        Replying to @zackkanter

        Does $GE count?

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      3. Tom Bielecki‏ @tombielecki 13 Nov 2017
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        Tom Bielecki Retweeted Joe Weisenthal

        https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/930111386465787906 …

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        Joe Weisenthal @TheStalwart
        GE is trying to improve its metrics, including the all important "Say/Do Ratio" pic.twitter.com/BE5U24hAts
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      2. Magnus Petersen-Paaske‏ @magnuspaaske 12 Nov 2017
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        Nope. This is classic anti tesla BS - e.g saying consumers are ‘greenwashing’ rather than buying one of the best cars out there. Or that tesla won’t impact emissions (as the GCC implodes)

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      3. Magnus Petersen-Paaske‏ @magnuspaaske 12 Nov 2017
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        Sorry to go all conspiracy on this but so far tesla has destroyed a lot more shareholder value in the oil business than they’ve created for their shareholders. People are shitting their pants in the oil biz as they try to pass the hot potato to the next idiot

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