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Founder/CEO @ http://Stedi.com  (modern EDI platform) & previously Proforged (acq by Huron Capital), future-enthusiast, occasional blogger, all-around nerd.

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    Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter Oct 27
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    Zack Kanter Retweeted Jake Chapman

    I suspect the reason this is rarely done in early stage startups is not because of secrecy - it’s because SAFEs make it functionally impossible to do without handing someone a full-blown pro forma cap table model, and it’s the single biggest downside of the SAFE.https://twitter.com/runvc/status/1188158293895593985 …

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    Jake ChapmanVerified account @runvc
    When offering stock options to employees why not tell them: 1) The absolute # of options 2) What that represents on a fully diluted basis 3) What they would receive today if the company sold today at 0.5X, 1X, or 2X the latest valuation net of exercise.
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      1. Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter Oct 27
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        (yes, applies to all convertible notes - SAFE is just most popular)

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      2. Wade Eyerly‏ @wadeeyerly Oct 27
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        I suspect it’s a literacy thing. People often don’t understand it even when explained. So, unless you’re willing to teach an equities 101 course every time someone is granted another share - it becomes “not really worth it” for a lot of businesses.

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      3. Wade Eyerly‏ @wadeeyerly Oct 27
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        It’s easier just to say “here are your shares” and move along.

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      1. Saul Lieberman‏ @Saul_Lieberman Oct 27
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        if you are already presenting alternative valuations, not sure the SAFE mechanics will make much difference when you get down to the option level that cannot be reasonably assumed away. (especially when compared to NO information)

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      1. J‏ @tofdaj Oct 27
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        Give a range. Posit: not about technicals but about founders being uncomfortable with the data and therefore fearful of sharing

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      1. Erik Berg‏ @aBergsEyeView Oct 27
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        Even with more robust convertible notes, still often ambiguity as to exactly how much everyone ones. Founders will often expect one interpretation of language and when new lead investor comes in... *surprise* they own a lot less than they thought.

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      1. island2019‏ @island2019 Oct 27
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        Zero. It’s zero.

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      1. John Kempe‏ @jwkempe Oct 27
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        Agree re: access to the cap table, but why not spend the time to explain to them the ways in which it might change and the triggers that would cause those changes? IMO most candidates that one wants to hire are smart enough to have an honest and transparent discussion about it

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      1. Michael Taylor‏ @2michaeltaylor Oct 27
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        As with all things startup, it's binary - you either have a home run success or you don't. If you do, terms don't really matter all that much, if you don't, you're fighting over scraps.

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      1. Ben Kosinski‏ @BennyyK Oct 27
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        And also that more information is not always better. Startups move fast. Interviewees don't want to trip up and ask these questions. Founders/HR don't really know. Adds friction to conversation. All sounds trivial but truth.

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