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Founder/CEO @ http://Stedi.com  (modern EDI platform) & previously Proforged (acq by Huron Capital), future-enthusiast, occasional blogger, all-around nerd.

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    Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter Oct 22
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    Lots of replies to this saying that it’s cheaper to run your own data centers at scale than using AWS/GCP/Azure. There’s nothing more expensive than saving money by running your own data centers.https://twitter.com/zackkanter/status/1186491942848253952 …

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    Oh wow this is going to be absolutely horrific to watch unwind in a few years. https://twitter.com/cra/status/1186324783492993025 …
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      2. John Loeber  🎢‏ @johnloeber Oct 22
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        Cloud data centers offer low variance in engineering. BofA’s on-prem design, by contrast, is high variance. The thing with variance is that you have to wait for it to kick in. In markets, lots of people make profitable bets, but look like fools when variance catches up to them.

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      3. mndrue‏ @mndrue Oct 22
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        Can you give an example of variance in this context?

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      1. Dan Moore @ re:Invent‏ @mooreds Oct 22
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        I dunno, maybe writing your own database or programming language might compete with running your own data centers.

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      2. Cameron  🌐‏ @c4mer0n Oct 22
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        Though I agree with you in principle (today's cloud is cheap!), there are times in which taking a product/service in-house can pay dividends. Apple has done this with its chips for the iPhone and iPad, and Tesla has done this with its chips for FSD.

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      3. Cameron  🌐‏ @c4mer0n Oct 22
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        In BofA's case, if they were able to build out a private cloud that was either 1) more efficient in processing the types of tasks that BofA often requires, or 2) better able to tie-in with their in-house legacy infrastructure, I think private cloud could make sense for them.

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      2. Sam Taylor‏ @SamTaylors_ear Oct 22
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        What is the longterm cost Boa will suffer? It is a lack of innovation as they are unable to match the R&D that MS and AMZ can provide? Or something else like security?

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      3. Ryan Wilson‏ @rywils21 Oct 22
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        They aren't necessarily in competition with MS and AMZ on R&D. It's more the R&D they miss out on for their own customer facing products by focusing on building a data center.

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      1. Jason Richman‏ @jbrichman Oct 22
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        Clearly they have not factored in “opportunity cost”. What are they not building by opting to build (& maintain) a data center?

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      1. Subbu Allamaraju @re:Invent‏ @sallamar Oct 22
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        Your second tweet in the subtweet about velocity is spot on. Speed fosters learning. Fear/savings based strategies don’t help in the long run.

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      1. la marge‏ @badassmaggielee Oct 22
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        But whyyyyyy ... some of us are lay people who would like to better understand the implications but don’t understand that which seems quite obvious to you

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