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Founder/CEO @ http://Stedi.com  (modern EDI platform) & previously Proforged (acq by Huron Capital), future-enthusiast, occasional blogger, all-around nerd.

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    1. DHH‏Verified account @dhh Sep 28
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      DHH Retweeted Programming Wisdom

      This is why microservices can make sense for large companies with many, separate, and isolated teams. And why it just about never makes any sense for small companies where teams can grasp the entire application.https://twitter.com/CodeWisdom/status/1177925174533984257 …

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      "Organizations which design systems are constrained to produce designs which are copies of the communication structures of these organizations." - Melvin Conway
      62 replies 577 retweets 1,930 likes
    2. Tobi Lutke  🌳 🌲‏Verified account @tobi Sep 28
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      Replying to @dhh

      Right. Microservices are a technical debt that you accept because the gained organizational simplicity is worth it in very large companies.

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      Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter Oct 1
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      Replying to @tobi @dhh

      In that case: monoliths are a technical debt that you accept temporarily until your organization is sufficiently large to necessitate microservices. Or, microservices are a technical debt you accept in small organizations in order to prevent painful refactoring.

      8:52 AM - 1 Oct 2019
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        2. Tobi Lutke  🌳 🌲‏Verified account @tobi Oct 1
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          Replying to @zackkanter @dhh

          I think that's the paddled narrative that is counterfactual. The people who benefit from this narrative is everyone who works on a billable hour basis, which happens to be the loudest part of the developer community

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        3. Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter Oct 1
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          Ah, I may have misinterpreted your tweet. I took it as “microservices are an inevitable/necessary technical debt for large companies” - though maybe you’re saying it’s not necessary? My point was that if it *is* necessary, then a monolith is, by definition, a technical debt.

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