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Founder/CEO @ http://Stedi.com  (modern EDI platform) & previously Proforged (acq by Huron Capital), future-enthusiast, occasional blogger, all-around nerd.

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    Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter 27 Nov 2018
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    Given that interruptions are particularly costly for software engineers, are there any successful tech startups who have moved off Slack completely? In other words: are we actually sure that benefits of Slack outweigh cost of interruptions? (just ignoring it is not reasonable)

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      2. Tyson Trautmann‏ @TysonTrautmann 27 Nov 2018
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        I'm 100% convinced that the cost of Slack far outweighs the benefits.

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      3. Zack Kanter‏Verified account @zackkanter 27 Nov 2018
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        CD for interruptions.

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      2. Shaun Maguire‏ @shaunmmaguire 28 Nov 2018
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        It’s even more severe for math/physics research. My minimal productive physics unit is 3 hours (optimal is 4), ideally with my cell phone >1 mile away. It was ~2 hours to load concepts into RAM then 1-2 hours of compute before exhaustion. My minimal coding unit is ~20 mins

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      3. nick farina  💘‏ @nick_farina 29 Nov 2018
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        we killed it (edtech business that’s more a PE venture than a startup but still a tech company at heart) and went back to email, trello, SMS if urgent. after we passed 500,000 messages on slack i knew something was wrong. remote workers miss the sense of community tho.

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      2. parker‏ @pt 28 Nov 2018
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        Pivotal never used any chat app. Very little email for engineers. Synchronous meetings are a must though.

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      3. Tyler Schultz‏ @tylerschultz 28 Nov 2018
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        Pivotal has many offices now, with teams that cross offices. The OSS community is out there too. Pivotal now uses Slack extensively. The walk up interrupt is valued, but they're less common these days. Many teams dedicate a pair every morning to Slack interrupts.

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      1. Philip I. Thomas‏ @philipithomas 28 Nov 2018
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        We have started using @twistappteam instead of slack. Threaded messages make async a lot easier. No urgency to follow or respond.

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      1. Aaron Rubin - ShipHero‏ @AaronandML 28 Nov 2018
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        More @twistappteam less slack

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      1. Elisa Doucette‏Verified account @elisadoucette 27 Nov 2018
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        We intentionally use Slack. Meaning only login when you are in a space for communicating. Otherwise, no need for it to be up with notifications. I still like it for separating convo topics and encouraging more succinct messages.

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      2. Strateλogical‏ @stratelogical 27 Nov 2018
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        Sounds interesting. Did you measure productivity pre and post? How did you arrive at 4?

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