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    1. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 27 Nov 2017
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      With WASM we get access to load instructions directly to RAM, but safely. I really wish the Web would allow us to do the same for block devices and sockets.

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    2. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 27 Nov 2017
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      Custom wire protocols; custom databases. If the Web is set to become the universal portable VM, then we need to finish what WASM started.

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    3. sholto maud‏ @shizzmd 28 Nov 2017
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      Can you expand on these ideas pls? I’m not sure I fully understand

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    4. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 28 Nov 2017
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      So right now all we have is stuff like Fetch & IndexedDB. These are high level abstractions. I think we need low level abstractions: e.g. WebUDP, WebBlockDevice.

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    5. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 28 Nov 2017
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      High level APIs have the downside that they don't map well to the OS, giving up performance. To then implement something like a DB on top of it means you'll only get a fraction of the perf you would writing non-browser code.

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    6. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 28 Nov 2017
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      A whole range of apps (e.g. real-time video games) simply aren't possible right now. It'd be cool if the platform had the capabilities to achieve it 🎉

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    7. sholto maud‏ @shizzmd 28 Nov 2017
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      Would that even be possible without violating all the laws of sandboxing? Who would one ask about this? Would @jaffathecake be a good person to start with?

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    8. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 28 Nov 2017
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      If WebAssembly was possible, then I'm sure the same can be done for networking & disk access. Probably the hardest part will be agreeing that it's a challenge that needs a solution.

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    9. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake 28 Nov 2017
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      I don't think it's quite the same. We've been able to write to memory for ages on the web, eg assigning a string to a variable. Not sure how you'd expose UDP without breaking security.

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    10. Patrick Meenan‏ @patmeenan 28 Nov 2017
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      If they're still a thing, webrtc data channels were supposed to solve the low-level connection control: https://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/webrtc/datachannels/ … Not quite raw sockets but could handle a lot of cases.

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      yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 29 Nov 2017
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      Yeah, they're rather limited tho; believe ~7 connections is when computers start melting. Also, afaik there's about 2 working implementations around, and building them is considered a feat. So everyone on the server is mostly just shelling out to Electron 😔

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        2. Patrick Meenan‏ @patmeenan 29 Nov 2017
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          Clients melt or servers? New server implementations is probably the quickest way to have something real since it is in the field in Chrome and Firefox already

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        3. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 29 Nov 2017
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          Clients melting. Maybe my info is outdated, and WebRTC perf has improved since a year ago! 🎉 What do you mean by the latter comment tho? I'm not sure I follow.

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