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    yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 22 Jun 2017
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    Regular reminder you shouldn't use bcrypt for new apps. Use high-mem, high-cpu impls like secure-password instead https://github.com/emilbayes/secure-password …

    5:55 AM - 22 Jun 2017 from Stratford, London
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      1. yosh‏ @yoshuawuyts 23 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @emilbayes @_lrlna

        But iirc bcrypt is vulnerable to people renting a GPU rack on Amazon and brute forcing the hell out of it. Emil knows more, but ya tradeoffs

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      1. Emil Bay‏ @emilbayes 22 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @yoshuawuyts

        You /can/ use bcrypt, scrypt and pbkdf2 if you don't have other options, but using Argon2 (which is memory bound) is highly recommended!

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      2. Emil Bay‏ @emilbayes 22 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @yoshuawuyts @_lrlna

        What do you mean by "lack of sustained wetting"? It made it through all rounds of PHC and won, and was tweaked to accommodate published atck

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      3. Emil Bay‏ @emilbayes 23 Jun 2017
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        Reference: https://password-hashing.net/  :)

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      1. Emil Bay‏ @emilbayes 23 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @yoshuawuyts @_lrlna

        time and confidence in the algo are correlated, not causal. Simplicity of the underlying algo is very important in easing the cryptoanalysis

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      1. ira.‏ @_lrlna 23 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @emilbayes @yoshuawuyts

        idk whatever the years of usage previous cryptos had imo come into the design of newer cryptos; it's not a wasted experience

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      1. Emil Bay‏ @emilbayes 23 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @yoshuawuyts @_lrlna

        I find the argument at the start of the Argon2 paper satisfying with regards to why one should have more confidence in it over eg. scrypt :)

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      1. Emil Bay‏ @emilbayes 23 Jun 2017
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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @yoshuawuyts @_lrlna

        What do you mean by side channel here? I think both you and I are working with a threat model where the attack vector is the hash at rest

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        Replying to @whale_eat_squid @yoshuawuyts @_lrlna

        It seems that was fixed, but I will have to study the paper and changes to find myself convinced

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