please help the left understand this, it will healhttps://twitter.com/averykimball/status/1262267522671276032 …
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Replying to @averykimball
New take: lefts and cons understand capital is a monster that needs to be bound. Cons prefer illegible means: virtue, tradition, religion, family. Lefts prefer legible ones: policy, redistribution, welfare state seizing the means of production, etc.
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69
hmmm hmmmm hmmm that’s interesting kinda can’t accept that libertarians don’t also have values not derived from “market outcomes” would love to get them on board- might take acknowledging that hyper-liquid capital systems are really good too or something
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Replying to @averykimball
The point of libertarianism is to form communities based on affinity to insulate the individual from the corrosive effects of capital. It's not for individuals, it's to allow individuals to create communities.
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69
i think your conception of libertarianism is a little esoteric which is good because my (i thought conventional) understanding of it makes me dislike it
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Replying to @averykimball @xstntlprvrt69
I think the outcomes different libertarians want can be different, but a lot of them do seem to focus heavily on community. (Galt's Gulch is an intentional community, right). You do get your hyper-cosmopolitain, city-living, free-trade, individualistic libertarians, too.
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Replying to @egocv @averykimball
not merely esoteric, but probably wrong. I guess a big part of it for me is that as I get more cynical about political reform, the value i put on preserving exit rights is higher.
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69 @egocv
yeah, exit is something I’d like to retain of course, libertarians run into problems with exit, too, when everywhere to which they would exit is owned privately thus the dream of seastedding, and spacebagging
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Replying to @averykimball @xstntlprvrt69
None of the nice, pure, simple philosophies work, right? Need to mix and match, be pragmatic, look to existing examples, allow for experiments, etc. etc. I think the mosti mportant intuition from libertarianism is "you can build your system within my system" (socialism)
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Nothing stopping you creating your socialist commune within a libertarian country, but in communist utopia, selling your labour is not allowed
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pro exit, pro archipelago, render unto leviathan what is leviathan (ie, recognize the state's role is to solve collective action problems).
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