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    1. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      What would you recommend? Something that is scalable and also available to children with poor, busy and checked out parents.

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    2. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      Idea: let kids challenge the need for further schooling with exams - if they can demonstrate a basic level of reading, writing, arithmetic, and some basic facts about the world, they can forgo the need for school. Should be passable by any diligent child - not just for brights.

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    3. 魔法BOZO族GOBLIN ☆ ODDS‏ @goblinodds Apr 30
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      i'll take it over the current system!

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    4. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      I guess the root of it is, I am not convinced that complex, mass society is possible without some kind of mass schooling. Children with diligent, caring adults with time and money to spare in their lives *have* better options.

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    5. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      Certain skills are not fun to learn but everyone needs them. That suggests scalability, with special attention directed towards stragglers to help them along.

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    6. 魔法BOZO族GOBLIN ☆ ODDS‏ @goblinodds Apr 30
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      i actually don't think there are many skills that *everyone* needs, and of the skills that most people should probably have, schools no longer teach most of them (cooking, first aid, financial management...)

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    7. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      Would you not agree that the illiterate are at an extreme disadvantage?

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    8. 魔法BOZO族GOBLIN ☆ ODDS‏ @goblinodds Apr 30
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      sure, that's why i said "not many" and not "any" also, strong doubt that schools are necessary for literacyhttps://www.fastcompany.com/2681011/ethiopian-kids-hacked-their-donated-tablets-in-just-five-months …

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    9. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      Sure but literacy is a big one - it develops over several years, and TBH, is at the core of my argument for schooling. Kids are self motivated learners - but what they learn may not be geared towards the skills needed to navigate mass society, which are often tedious to pick up.

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    10. 魔法BOZO族GOBLIN ☆ ODDS‏ @goblinodds Apr 30
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      that's fair, though i strongly doubt forcing it into a schedule based on age group is better than letting them learn it at their own pace and according to their own interests with some guidance

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      existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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      I suspect that's mostly a scalability issue, which is going to come up whenever you rely on the government for financing. I can think of other arguments, but they seem kind of weak to me now (might change mind later, idk). Classic authoritarian high modernism.

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        2. 魔法BOZO族GOBLIN ☆ ODDS‏ @goblinodds Apr 30
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          yeah i could see there being ways to reform schools that make them substantially less bad without going full anarchy (even if full anarchy is my ideal end-state :B ) it's weird to me how many private schools follow the same industrial model, though

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        3. existentialpervert69 ☣‏ @xstntlprvrt69 Apr 30
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          I've known kids who had middle class hippie parents and went to alternative schools. They didn't seem to lag behind. Private schools are often for social climbers that need to be legible to Ivy League universities and socialize kids into upper class values.

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        2. Dailan‏ @Dailan__M Apr 30
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          Deadlines are strong motives, as much as people hate them. Rolling shared deadlines and brakes are necessary for scale. It follows grade segregation is emergent, so you can't do away with it without crippling scale. Probably has nothing to do with the government imo.

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        3. 魔法BOZO族GOBLIN ☆ ODDS‏ @goblinodds Apr 30
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          hmm i'd aim for project-based deadlines, ideally sticking to real constraints (vs made up ones) where possible grade segregation would be improved if it were independent of age by default

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