broke: school should teach more important stuff, such as [basic skill possessed by all animals and actively destroyed by school] woke: school should not exist
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minimum viable school replacement is access to a library, a forest, and a person who loves you
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Replying to @QiaochuYuan @goblinodds
Most of the anti-school stuff I see on here seems to be based on the assumption that families and communities are going to step in and fill in the gaps for fundamental things we take for granted, like literacy. They will, for middle class kids.
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69 @QiaochuYuan
true but problems like "kid has insufficient access to a caring adult bc mom has 3 jobs" can be solved in ways other than herding a bunch of kids into a building, segregating them by age and boring them for 12 years
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Replying to @goblinodds @QiaochuYuan
What would you recommend? Something that is scalable and also available to children with poor, busy and checked out parents.
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Idea: let kids challenge the need for further schooling with exams - if they can demonstrate a basic level of reading, writing, arithmetic, and some basic facts about the world, they can forgo the need for school. Should be passable by any diligent child - not just for brights.
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69 @QiaochuYuan
i'll take it over the current system!
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Replying to @goblinodds @QiaochuYuan
I guess the root of it is, I am not convinced that complex, mass society is possible without some kind of mass schooling. Children with diligent, caring adults with time and money to spare in their lives *have* better options.
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Certain skills are not fun to learn but everyone needs them. That suggests scalability, with special attention directed towards stragglers to help them along.
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69 @QiaochuYuan
i actually don't think there are many skills that *everyone* needs, and of the skills that most people should probably have, schools no longer teach most of them (cooking, first aid, financial management...)
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Would you not agree that the illiterate are at an extreme disadvantage?
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Replying to @xstntlprvrt69 @QiaochuYuan
sure, that's why i said "not many" and not "any" also, strong doubt that schools are necessary for literacyhttps://www.fastcompany.com/2681011/ethiopian-kids-hacked-their-donated-tablets-in-just-five-months …
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Replying to @goblinodds @QiaochuYuan
Sure but literacy is a big one - it develops over several years, and TBH, is at the core of my argument for schooling. Kids are self motivated learners - but what they learn may not be geared towards the skills needed to navigate mass society, which are often tedious to pick up.
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