I think there’s some valid apologetics in the area, which points out that suffering isn’t required for action and that action can come naturally. But the devil is in the details - one wonders whether that focus on peace necessarily (or just circumstantially) conflicts with action
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And yes, if you’re too focused on peace, you won’t be able to tread the path... Still I think some of the criticism may land.
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This criticism is entirely founded in ignorance. Equanimity has no bearing on action in the world in this way – and the Buddhist path very explicitly involves awakening blindingly intense motivation for action – hence my F1 metaphor. There's nothing "chill" about it.
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Buddhism should really be seen as the path to becoming an exalted warrior for truth and love. I feel like we kind of understand the path of the samurai, but not how similar it is to the path of the sage.
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To be more explicit, equanimity is necessary to cultivate to prevent anything getting in the way of you awakening IMMENSE ENERGY toward LIBERATING ALL LIVING BEINGS
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Re F1 engine & liberated energy - I’m open to this. I think if it’s an intention behind meditation, the path might lead there. But there’s another (empirical) question about the degree to which meditation instructions or training get you there and with what reliability...
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... and whether, if you value action, you’d be better off trying to start a company or something like that. Am definitely pro the attempt towards both in the best case, but skeptical that simple approaches will ‘definitely’ lead to these essential elements.
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I definitely don’t think someone can blandly say that ‘Buddhism’ or ‘meditation’ will get you there. Perhaps the best teachings, and the best instructions, maybe maybe maybe..!
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Hm, yeah – some assumptions on my end: - "Meditation" is not Buddhism, by a long shot - "Buddhism" is not 'materialist Americans practicing some portion of Buddhism on their own' When I say "Buddhism," I mean: rigorously studying under a master. Anything else is not Buddhism.
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I find Buddhism as a religion way more interesting than Buddhism as reconstructed in the west ("it's just like, a philosophy man!") Buddhism as a religion is capable of encompassing some of these goals, secularized Western convert Buddhism is maybe not?
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I certainly believe that to be the case!
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Equanimity: sounds boring. Ataraxia: nobody knows what the hell you are talking about. sounds vaguely Greek. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ataraxia
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