1/ Like many I have a complicated relationship to God - not sure what to believe, want a naturalistic explanation for it all, & go back and forth on interpretations of some transformative personal events. But I found this beautiful & useful. And I know, from years back...https://twitter.com/SpencerKlavan/status/1222649533756100608 …
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2/ ... when I was a certain type of die-hard atheist, that reading this beautifully written prayer would have annoyed the hell out of me. I assume atheists still have this reaction. The reaction often doesn't serve them well, but it's not always clear what to say in response.
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3/ The atheist's reaction is usually that the spiritual person is trying to dismiss some form of verified, scientific truth. Must remember: *spirituality is a reckoning with the universe.* Stone cold reality. (The below isn't worded strongly enough.)https://twitter.com/michaelcurzi/status/1206060102093922304 …
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4/ Gurus tempting you away from 'what's really going on' are charlatans (bad version), or are temporarily disorienting you to get you to see more clearly (weird but better version). Shouldn't ultimately ask you to deny your best sense of what's true.https://twitter.com/michaelcurzi/status/1206064019691331584 …
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Michael Curzi @michaelcurzi4/ Esotericism shows up around spirituality for a variety of reasons: • Gurus can maintain authority in both sketchy & nonsketchy ways • Riddles demanding odd mental postures can yield wisdom when solved • Indirect communication can reach people who aren't otherwise listeningShow this thread1 reply 0 retweets 0 likesShow this thread -
5/ Just because they say 'God' doesn't need to mean they're asking you to deny physics/evolution etc. (Some are.) The best religious perspectives value reason. (Both Newton and Darwin are buried at Westminster Abbey. Perhaps this indicates *some* interest in scientific truth?)pic.twitter.com/j4lV7Oiv7X
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6/ A deep intent to know what's going on should be welcome in any serious intellectual circle, whether scientific/atheistic or spiritual/religious. We all have more to learn. We all have idols to shatter.
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7/ (And prayer is a real, practical, naturalistic, explainable thing, that can be ultra helpful for getting your life on track. Quit your excuses and try it for 30-60 minutes, if you're not scared.
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I have accepted God as real, and I've accepted that Christianity is a fully realized, existential stance to all of the limits of the human condition. The problem I run into isn't God or physics - it's history, being able to affirm the events of the Gospels as historically true.
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So, like, these stories are really important - they point to the more-than-life, but I just can't say I find them plausible as historical propositions. And it's pretty obvious that Christianity did not just drop down as a revelation from heaven.
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It's a finally tuned machine made up of works by wiser, smarter and saintlier men than me. BUT... religion seems to work better for people who *believe* in the *literal* truth of at least some solid core events.
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What if they're truer than true? An event is only incidentally true, a lesson however *necessarily* obtains.
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Historically, most religious believers would have believed in the literal, historical truth of their religious claims.
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