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Civjan's testimony was about how "devastated" Java's sales were, but his LinkedIn said they were doing great the whole time. Hmm.

"Mr. Civjan, your LinkedIn says your greatest weakness is that you care TOO much. Would you say that is accurate?"

(that line is a joke. hard to tell with this trial)

Next witness is Alan Brenner, who led Java mobile stuff at Sun from 1997-2007.

Interesting point from Brenner: Early mobile OSes were so insecure operators didn't want to allow apps without Java managed environments.

Brenner describes the process of developing Java ME, which he led. They "discovered" an existing research project at Sun and took it over.

Brenner: Java ME absorbed more and more of Java SE functionality, because devices were advancing.

Taken together with the last witness, this could be arguing again for the inevitability of Android's innovations.

We're heading into a 15 minute break. Yr boy needs coffee.

OK there's a dispute about this document and a dispute in Korea and GNU Classpath. I mention it only so this quote has some conext:

Alsup: "How come Sun didn't shut down the GNU?"

OMG they are literally arguing about the Berne convention

Google atty distinguishing older PDA-style phones from Android: "You remember you used to have press the 2 key 3x for 'C'?"

Google's presenting Brenner with a Sun slide about Java fragmentation on mobile.

Brenner: Yeah, they were not bug-for-bug compatible.

Oracle calls its next witness, Stefano Mazzocchi

Oracle asks him about his Twitter account. This is always a scary question.

Mazzocchi described himself as one of three people who created Apache Harmony, in a tweet in 2010

Lessons from Oracle v Google: - Never email - Never tweet - Never offer an opinion - An API can be considered as like a breakfast menu, wher

Oracle now asking if he's familiar with the Wayback Machine. She's showing him a web page from 2008.

WOW this is very much a Never Email moment. Oracle quotes "I was missing the fact that the copyright on the API is real and hard to ignore."

It actually gets worse from there. This is an email from Apache Harmony developer Stefano Mazzocchi.

I believe Oracle's Annette Hurst was cleared to treat this witness as hostile this morning. Hard to imagine how this would go otherwise.

Oracle atty: "Did you ever describe Android's use of Sun's intellectual property as 'ripping them off'?"

Mazzocchi (again, not an Android guy!) says he doesn't remember.

Google to Mazzocchi: "Thinking back to 2008, what did you know about fair use in copyright law?" M: I don't recall knowing anything.

More of the Hacker News Comments defense. Clearly, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, our witness knows nothing.

Mazzocchi is sitting there on the stand while Alsup and the attorneys are in a sidebar. What must be going through his head.

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Mazzocchi is off the stand. That was intense. 15 minute break.