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Eventually, though, other people caught on and created more spam sites - and at the start of 2018 we finally decided to validate credit cards in order to start a free trial. No charge on signup, and no auto-charge at the end of trial. Just validation. Spam solved! Until 2020
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At the start of this year, the strategy we used to get rid of one type of spammer... attracted a new type. Fuck me. Now there's people who do a "big hack" of cards stored in plaintext somewhere, then try to sell them on the black market before the breach is up on
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But you're a hacker, and you just got 100,000 credit card details from a database somewhere which you now want to sell on. The first question you're going to get to establish market value is... "how many of them work?"
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And so it turns out we inadvertently designed the ultimate credit card testing tool. A public facing credit card form, which DOES validate a card can be charged, but DOESNT charge it, meaning it's nearly invisible to the victims:
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Doesn't show up on printed statements, doesn't show up on internet banking, doesn't show up ANYWHERE except for a temporary "pending transaction" list with some more modern providers. Best of all! It's from a known merchant (us) with well established reputation/history!
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So these motherfuckers start running big batches of thousands of card tests against our signup page. Spam prevention is now spam magnet. They do it via a distributed botnet masquerading as real users filling out/submitting the form, so there's basically no way of filtering.
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Infrastructure team is trying everything but they're getting through all our honeypots, and we're losing our minds. I'm going through our firewall logs looking at the requests and spot a couple of signatures which are easy to block. Then, all of a sudden there's a new spike
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IMO It's always a matter of rentability. Although it may not be rentable to pay Luminati for residential proxies when it comes to crawling (it depends the value of the data), I guess when it comes to credit card it becomes wort spending some $ on it.
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you’re right! Last time I checked market value for a card was between $1 - $20 depending on the country, type of card etc. I guess making the process slow and expensive will lead the attacker the move to an easier target.
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