I think it's more or less the same comparison to chess. Since its calculations like its mechanical are accurate and beyond what a human can do. Deep Blue, who beat Kasparov, wasn't a neural network it just calculated, it thought through many bad moves too.
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En réponse à @zminusone @NarutOSC2 et
iirc, AlphaStar's goal is to see if an ai can have superior strategic planning and skill while under similar limitations as a human. Don't forget that Alphastar selected a purification nova and blew up its own army
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En réponse à @ChynesC @zminusone et
It doesn't have strategic planning, it mimics players and their options.
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En réponse à @FlorencioSC2 @zminusone et
I've looked back at some replays (literally just watch Winter casting it's games) and so Iiiiiiiiii redact my assumption and wholeheartedly agree with your statement of what the ai did
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En réponse à @ChynesC @zminusone et
i really feel like you guys dont understand what the AI is doing yet. it doesnt have bayesian thinking but it doesnt just do raw calculations either, like with chess. it learned from experience and idk if you guys know how big of a deal that is
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En réponse à @cannamusicc @ChynesC et
I am not saying it's not an accomplishment. I am saying it's not comparable to human performance
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En réponse à @NarutOSC2 @cannamusicc et
Well, it is out preforming like 99.8% of all starcraft 2 players, with it being in Grand Masters. It's just not in the tip tip top of the iceberg, and more being near sea level
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En réponse à @ChynesC @NarutOSC2 et
If you had serrals mechanics you would already be better than 99% of all players, without any strategic knowledge at all
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En réponse à @___Dur___ @ChynesC et
True StarCraft isn't about being better then 99% with mechanics and feeling satisfied. It ant satisfying till you mastered the overall skill. It might feel like the top just because you see no one behind you. StarCraft is a beast of a mountain and no one has fully climbed it.
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En réponse à @FlorencioSC2 @___Dur___ et
all i was saying is that with a little more time the bot would beat serral, which is an incredible feat. micro bots with 10.000 apm cant do that
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That's what we'd like to see tested tbh but deepmind giving up on it tells me they weren't making progress/are deciding to not give it that time
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