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    x0rz‏ @x0rz May 9

    The ssh-decorator package from Python pip had an obvious backdoor (sending ip+login+password to ssh-decorate[.]cf in cleartext HTTP) https://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/8hvzja/backdoor_in_sshdecorator_package/ …pic.twitter.com/X0LsM3krDv

    12:27 AM - 9 May 2018
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      1. x0rz‏ @x0rz May 9

        Anybody know the time-to-discovery? Any metrics on the # of impacted users?

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      2. Vazer Rahmani‏ @vazerme May 9
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        That's why sometimes re-inventing the wheel is the way to go. Trust no one.

        3 replies 0 retweets 28 likes
      3. 𝖓𝖙𝖍𝖈𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖒𝖓‏ @nthcolumn May 9
        Replying to @vazerme @x0rz

        Bad idea for most people as they will 100% make some n00b security mistake. Most web devs don't even know what is in the libraries they import or if a dependency of a dependency has some vuln (unless they are warned by git...) npm is even worse.

        2 replies 0 retweets 24 likes
      4. Vazer Rahmani‏ @vazerme May 9
        Replying to @nthcolumn @x0rz

        Well, most people can't re-invent the wheel properly. Some don't even know how the current wheel that they're using works!

        2 replies 2 retweets 10 likes
      5. 𝖓𝖙𝖍𝖈𝖔𝖑𝖚𝖒𝖓‏ @nthcolumn May 9
        Replying to @vazerme @x0rz

        pic.twitter.com/ayj9aK8jrY

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      1. Marco Peereboom‏ @marco_peereboom May 9
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        sudo install internet

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      2. M.A.Newhall‏ @MANewhall May 10
        Replying to @x0rz

        Now look at this in the context of shops running many thousands of servers per admin with the same exact unaudited code as thousands of other shops doing the same. Puppet, ansible, chef, etc etc. Turns out admins in the hundreds of servers stage weren’t doing nothing.

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      3. Ben Macguire‏ @blueben May 10
        Replying to @MANewhall @x0rz

        Nobody was reading the source of every library and tool we used before deploying it. This is not the axe you're looking for.

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      4. M.A.Newhall‏ @MANewhall May 10
        Replying to @blueben @x0rz

        LOL. That level of audit from one amazing person is hardly the point. Diversity of implementation. That is the point. Linux has become a monoculture. That's what made Microsoft so weak for so long. The likelihood of oversight is the same but the impact is WAY higher.

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      5. Ben Macguire‏ @blueben May 10
        Replying to @MANewhall @x0rz

        We don't have a monoculture. We have an explosion of unvetted software. Quite the opposite.

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      6. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker May 11
        Replying to @blueben @MANewhall @x0rz

        We have an explosion of uncurated repositories, indistinguishable by average users from curated ones, made way too easy to use.

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      7. M.A.Newhall‏ @MANewhall May 11
        Replying to @RichFelker @blueben @x0rz

        There is that, but that's easily defined/curable. The casually curated but widely used repos scare me. The illusion of security.

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      8. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker May 11
        Replying to @MANewhall @blueben @x0rz

        By curation I mean something like Debian. All the language-specific library repos are uncurated in my book.

        2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
      9. Real AI‏ @Luiz0x29A May 11
        Replying to @RichFelker @MANewhall and

        anything that doesn't come in the language library is uncurated, oops, JS has no standard library itself

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      1. Chris M‏ @cmaurer_at May 10
        Replying to @x0rz @stefan2904

        This is why I don't like most of these unknown libraries. Npm and the JavaScript world is even worse.

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      2. Matthew Davis‏ @deadsmiths May 10
        Replying to @x0rz

        What’s really on our minds here: index.php? For reals?

        1 reply 0 retweets 6 likes
      3. code_monk‏ @code_monk May 10
        Replying to @deadsmiths @x0rz

        just to mix things up, has pip backdoors are written in PHP, and npm backdoors in C#

        0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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      1. code_monk‏ @code_monk May 10
        Replying to @x0rz

        creator needs to be doxxed. agreed?

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      1. lofiGTi‏ @lofiGTi May 9
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        What the... trust no one.

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