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    1. @c̲hris̲epps̲tein‏ @chriseppstein May 14
      Replying to @slightlylate

      I mean software in general has kept up with consuming every win from moore's law for like 4 decades, so it seems like in general software developers are bad.

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate May 14
      Replying to @chriseppstein

      The web has gone super-linear, tho. Our data shows we're getting worse faster than HW is improving. Also, in many segments, HW is not improving. Double-whammy, and JS bloat is the root cause.

      4 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    3. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell May 14
      Replying to @slightlylate @chriseppstein

      I'd be curious for some analysis on what bits are growing, if you understand what I'm asking. Like, as in, what is it that is trying to be done that we could avoid here with better features and still meet expectations

      2 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate May 14
      Replying to @briankardell @chriseppstein

      The community is largely rejecting non-user-space answers. Many causes, but all lead to bad client-side experiences.

      1 reply 1 retweet 6 likes
    5. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell May 14
      Replying to @slightlylate @chriseppstein

      Sorry, can you clarify? Really don't know what you mean there

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    6. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell May 14
      Replying to @briankardell @slightlylate @chriseppstein

      Rephrased: what's an example of a thing lots of people are using that is a significant chunk and has a native answer that isn't getting used? Is that what you mean?

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    7. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell May 15
      Replying to @briankardell @slightlylate @chriseppstein

      Really i would like to better understand what you're saying ^^^

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate May 15
      Replying to @briankardell @chriseppstein

      Ah, sorry for the late reply. One small example: I can't tell you how many copies of Promise (and Promise-alike) polyfills I see in apps I dissect.

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    9. вкαя∂εℓℓ‏ @briankardell May 15
      Replying to @slightlylate @chriseppstein

      Ah yes.. Tag should discuss this as there was some disagreement iirc... Will find you a pointer tomorrow to what i mean

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate May 15
      Replying to @briankardell @chriseppstein

      Other examples abound, but in general the view amongst the frontend community is that JS is cheap (it's not) or that hardware is getting faster (in growth markets, it's not).

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 15
      Replying to @slightlylate @briankardell @chriseppstein

      The promise situation could be improved through more hookability and also by waiting. I don't see promise polyfills sticking around in new apps for much longer. Last week's Ember "reader question" was about this:https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/readers-questions-why-does-ember-still-use-rsvp/14736 …

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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 15
          Replying to @wycats @slightlylate and

          TLDR we're working on it and are close to removing it. Totally agree that the web doesn't need promise polyfills anymore.

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