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    1. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @brianmfitch and

      Route should have no awareness of what may or may not be rendered in its corresponding templating.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @brianmfitch and

      It’s job is simply URL/QP to template and back related logic and fetching.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Brian Fitch‏ @brianmfitch May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @amatchneer and

      Hmmm I’ll have to think about it. 😊 If the route knows what data is being fetched, what’s the downside of it preparing the data shape for the template?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @brianmfitch @amatchneer and

      In simplest of worlds, that sorta sounds like the return value of the model hook right? Nothing prevents people from invoking other methods from it. Along those lines, I’ve thought of an attrs hook, that does a RSVP.hash on the return value similar to model()

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @brianmfitch and

      Not sure if it would replace model, or if simply RSVP.hash in model() should be more encouraged? (Likely the later)

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @brianmfitch and

      When playing with that region route/controller and top level template. It becomes pretty clear many concepts can simply be removed, feels much nicer when they are. Cc @Thoov

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Brian Fitch‏ @brianmfitch May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @amatchneer and

      Yup, I agree. Something like RSVP.hash —> component attributes is what I was thinking

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @brianmfitch @amatchneer and

      I think passing them to the component via template itself should do the trick. Top level template, over top level component/view is empowering.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Brian Fitch‏ @brianmfitch May 6
      Replying to @stefanpenner @amatchneer and

      I’m really psyched about removing the existing layers between URL and the first component. If I had my way the mental model would be: URL —> Route —> Component Tree. Bye bye top level template and controllers.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 6
      Replying to @brianmfitch @amatchneer and

      I’m less so, I prefer top level template but still no controller. It keeps how you invoke components consistent (amongst other simplicity things. Ill think about how to articulate this better. I am struggling apparently

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 7
      Replying to @stefanpenner @brianmfitch and

      You still need some way to pass args, but I think `@names` + a new route hook is all you need.

      6:09 PM - 7 May 2018
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        2. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 7
          Replying to @wycats @brianmfitch and

          Bungo

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        3. Travis Hoover‏ @Thoov May 7
          Replying to @stefanpenner @wycats and

          This is a completely quick, not fully thought through look at what it could look like:https://gist.github.com/thoov/985e5689058bee791874e88c16899c00 …

          1 reply 1 retweet 7 likes
        4. Brian Fitch‏ @brianmfitch May 8
          Replying to @Thoov @stefanpenner and

          This is really cool! I’m probably being dense, but I still don’t see the advantage of the template invoking the component vs the data() hook passing args and invoking it directly. Removing the top template reduces concepts devs need to learn.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 8
          Replying to @brianmfitch @Thoov and

          There's no reason you couldn't give the top component a class, but on the other hand what do you really need it for?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Chris Krycho‏ @chriskrycho May 9
          Replying to @wycats @brianmfitch and

          Better: make it have outer HTML semantics, same as Glimmer components, and that problem just goes away.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 9
          Replying to @chriskrycho @brianmfitch and

          Right.

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        2. Oli Griffiths‏ @oligriffiths May 8
          Replying to @wycats @stefanpenner and

          When doing these tonight exercises in future, can we immediately move them to https://discuss.emberjs.com  so they’re more easily discovered and contributed to?

          2 replies 3 retweets 5 likes
        3. Alex Matchneer‏ @amatchneer May 8
          Replying to @oligriffiths @wycats and

          I hereby declare that anyone inspired by these thought exercises should open a thread on discuss and link it in a tweet response. People having the thought exercises don't always know when they're striking on something new/interesting.

          2 replies 1 retweet 4 likes
        4. Oli Griffiths‏ @oligriffiths May 8
          Replying to @amatchneer @wycats and

          A 25 tweet thread is usually a good indicator 😝 Just making people aware that’s all 🙃

          1 reply 1 retweet 3 likes
        5. Brian Fitch‏ @brianmfitch May 8
          Replying to @oligriffiths @amatchneer and

          Did you guys just call "Bungo" on this thread?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Alex Matchneer‏ @amatchneer May 8
          Replying to @brianmfitch @oligriffiths and

          Someone called for a rebrand for #EmberJS2018 and I could get behind Bungo.js

          1 reply 2 retweets 4 likes
        7. Oli Griffiths‏ @oligriffiths May 8
          Replying to @amatchneer @brianmfitch and

          💯

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