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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
      Replying to @eaf4 @nucknyan and

      And the addon API doesn't even have that direct of a relationship to Broccoli, in the same way that the Ember component lifecycle makes sense even if it wasn't generating DOM at the end.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Sexy Emma Costume‏ @nucknyan May 4
      Replying to @wycats @eaf4 and

      Yeah I won't fault the addon API at all. I love it, I just have gripes with the feeling that ember is constantly reinventing things that it seems (1) everybody else coalesced on a solution for and (2) nobody else can benefit from our reinvention

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. Sexy Emma Costume‏ @nucknyan May 4
      Replying to @nucknyan @wycats and

      It feels like ember picks a tool early in the race and when everybody else hits the same problem and coalesces around an alternative, we stubbornly keep our existing tool due to sunk costs

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Sexy Emma Costume‏ @nucknyan May 4
      Replying to @nucknyan @wycats and

      … And this results in a weak ecosystem because I can't borrow tools directly from other ecosystems, just ideas. And ideas are frankly near-worthless when I'm trying to build a product quickly

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
      Replying to @nucknyan @eaf4 and

      From the perspective of quickly shipping your product, what would you say are the biggest things from Webpack missing in Ember that are slowing you down?

      4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Chris Freeman‏ @15lettermax May 4
      Replying to @wycats @nucknyan and

      npm install thing -> import stuff from thing is absolutely 100% a real and significant feature of using webpack that ember still lacks (though I know we're getting closer) and the cost of not having this feature is far from trivial in real life apps

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    7. Alex Matchneer‏ @amatchneer May 4
      Replying to @15lettermax @wycats and

      I definitely quickly feel paralyzed when I go down the path of wanting to use a 3rd party module to solve some problem or experiment with an idea.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
      Replying to @amatchneer @15lettermax and

      When I started thinking about Ember in 2018 over the holidays, "being able to easily import from npm" quickly shot up to the top of my list. It sucks wanting to use an npm module and having to remember the song and dance. Let's fix it.

      5 replies 2 retweets 16 likes
    9. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 4
      Replying to @wycats @amatchneer and

      Ember-browserify works pretty good. People want addon support, but that quickly introduces duplicates and that spirals out of control re: bite size. Solvable, but not trivial. Existing alternative solutions are poor. When auditing browserify and web pack bundles, dupes abound

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 4
      Replying to @stefanpenner @wycats and

      This can be addressed with more config, viz, solutions etc. But requires dedicated cycles, if we want to get further then @ef4’s ember-browserify (largely just addon related)

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
      Replying to @stefanpenner @amatchneer and

      It seems like there are some small tweaks we could make to catch up with the rest of the ecosystem, like the point about named exports.

      4:55 PM - 4 May 2018
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 4
          Replying to @wycats @amatchneer and

          Just needs dedicated cycles. Of someone willing to follow through and take the constraints seriously

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 4
          Replying to @stefanpenner @wycats and

          No one is stopping anyone

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        4. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 4
          Replying to @stefanpenner @wycats and

          And I would strongly encourage someone take this on. It will Be impactful

          1 reply 1 retweet 1 like
        5. Sean Thomas Larkin (肖恩)‏ @TheLarkInn May 4
          Replying to @stefanpenner @wycats and

          Hey we got you that scope hoisting and code splitting didn't we.pic.twitter.com/3gGg5fMNtM

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. Stefan Penner‏ @stefanpenner May 4
          Replying to @TheLarkInn @wycats and

          Will check it out.

          0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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