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    Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

    If you've used Ember, what positive aspects of Ember do you think don't get enough coverage (both in the Ember community and in the wider JS community)?

    10:25 AM - 4 May 2018
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      2. Matt McManus‏ @mattmcmanus May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        I know their not long for this world, but class name bindings on components. That was such a delightful ergonomic coming from react/backbone

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      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
        Replying to @mattmcmanus

        I love hearing that people still get value from original features that we've found ways to improve. Re: not long for this world, `...attributes` on Glimmer components should be even more ergonomic than classNameBindings, right?

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      4. Matt McManus‏ @mattmcmanus May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        I’ve only done a single spike on Glimmer.…attributes wasn’t an obvious solution at first pass. Should a chance to play with it again arises, I’ll give that a try

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
        Replying to @mattmcmanus

        I'd love to hear about your experience if you give it a shot.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Matt McManus‏ @mattmcmanus May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        It’s been a while (the last I played was 5/03/17) but I think some observations are still relevant: 1. Components templates as outerHTML took a bit to readjust but it totally the right call 2. The same for args/props

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Matt McManus‏ @mattmcmanus May 4
        Replying to @mattmcmanus @wycats

        Coming from ember, the boundaries between the two are really confusing. Like, I’m using the “same” cli but can’t generate services, etc. When you think about it’s obvious, but it’s takes some cycles.

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      8. Matt McManus‏ @mattmcmanus May 4
        Replying to @mattmcmanus @wycats

        As a general observation of the tool, it makes sense as a experimental playground, but not as a competitor to react/vue. I know very capable devs who chose Vue because react seemed like too much to them. Typescript plus the coupling of the cli strikes me as a mountain too high

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      9. Matt McManus‏ @mattmcmanus May 4
        Replying to @mattmcmanus @wycats

        That’s what I got for now. Hopefully some of it is what you were looking for.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Ryan Toronto‏ @ryantotweets May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        Testing user interactions in Ember is awesome. I don't think the wider JS community knows how amazing the testing story is.

        1 reply 2 retweets 9 likes
      3. Miguel Camba‏ @MiguelCamba May 4
        Replying to @ryantotweets @amatchneer @wycats

        I agree that the testing story is absolute brilliant. Light years ahead of anything else I've seen.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
        Replying to @MiguelCamba @ryantotweets @amatchneer

        I'm seeing so much love for the testing story. \o/ I also love https://github.com/emberjs/rfcs/pull/327 …, an effort to improve testing ergonomics and accessibility at the same time, based on @jgwhite's amazing EmberConf talk.

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      2. Ming Liu‏ @ming_codes May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        The addon ecosystem is definitely a killer feature. PWA is quite literally just 4 addon installs. I know that the core team doesn’t want to endorse certain addons, but I think there should be a cookbook style guide to help people get on the most recent buzzword feature.

        1 reply 0 retweets 7 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
        Replying to @ming_codes

        I think that the Rust "libz blitz" approach was pretty darn good for "in the moment stdlib"https://blog.rust-lang.org/2017/05/05/libz-blitz.html …

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Thomas Sauer‏ @_tsauer May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        I recently started working with React and last week we had to solve a problem about controlled and uncontrolled inputs. I guess it is a minor thing but I never had to think about something like that with Ember.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4
        Replying to @_tsauer

        What's a controlled vs. uncontrolled input?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Thomas Sauer‏ @_tsauer May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        It is basically if you control the state of an input (e.g. the checked state of a checkbox) completely by yourself (through passing in the right properties) or if the dom element itself can handle it. I have no idea why this is necessary but it is really confusing.

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      1. scalvert‏ @scalvert May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        As others have said, testing is an absolute pleasure. I’ve used tons of testing frameworks throughout my 15 year career and Ember’s is by far the best.

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      1. Luke Melia‏ @lukemelia May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        The thoughtful upgrade path isn’t a sexy feature but it has made such a tremendous difference for my team.

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      2. Arnav Gupta‏ @championswimmer May 4
        Replying to @wycats

        Best thing for me is the ****VEEERRRYY*** extended version compatibility of all addons in the ember ecosystem. Things from 1.13 work on 3.x Especially in JS world, nothing else works this way (unfortunately)

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