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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      Something that sometimes gets lost in discussions about conventions vs flexibility: If you're using a well-built conventional system and swap out a component, you still get a lot of the value.

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    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      For example, if you swap out QUnit for mocha in Ember, you won't be able to share as much testing infrastructure with the wider community, but most add-ons will work, development mode works, the router works, production builds work,

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      Ember CLI deploy works, etc etc. By well-built, I mostly mean that the core parts of the system aren't too coupled to each other. Ember itself connects to Ember Data through the router model hook, so if you want to use GraphQL or roll your own, go to town.

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    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      It will mean that you're in uncharted territory as far as that component is concerned, and will need to do some plumbing if you're the first one to do it (or deal with leaky plumbing if you're early), but you get the benefits of the conventional structure for the rest.

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      That's also a key difference between Ember CLI and "eject". Ember CLI provides structured escape valves, so you're only ejecting a small part, keeping the conventions and shared community for the rest.

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      It does mean that the framework has to provide reasonable escape valves for the thing you're trying to do, and that won't always be true, especially if you're trying a more off-the-path experiment.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

      If you really value conventional systems and want to do these kinds of experiments, Ember is wide open to exposing the necessary hooks to give you room to experiment, and contributors will help design the hooks to keep the "ejection" from impacting unrelated conventions.

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        1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 4

          A lot of the time (like if you're experiment with an alternative data layer), the hooks are already in place and you can to to town. But if you value being able to do experiments more highly than shared conventions, Ember isn't the framework for you.

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