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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Apr 29

      If you've used JSON:API and GraphQL, what would you say are the key missing features in JSON:API? Conversely, what did you like better about JSON:API? (feel free to answer one or both questions)

      27 replies 37 retweets 89 likes
    2. Martin Muñoz‏ @_mmun Apr 29
      Replying to @wycats

      In my mind, they're isomorphic but tailored for different use cases. JSON:API has de-duping records in a response locked down. GraphQL makes writing "includes" easier for and promotes RPC style mutations.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Martin Muñoz‏ @_mmun Apr 29
      Replying to @_mmun @wycats

      The main differences I see are actually in the programming models of the clients for each style of API. In GraphQL, queries tend to be first class objects used as cache keys. In JSON:API you tend to cache by (type, id). (yeah, yeah Apollo does both)

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    4. Martin Muñoz‏ @_mmun Apr 29
      Replying to @_mmun @wycats

      Anyways, to answer your question. I'd love if JSON:API had... - Types/schema/schema exploration as a first-class citizen - A nicer language for expressing includes - maaaaybe some conventions around RPC style APIs? I find new devs struggle to model things with REST

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Ryan Plans ExtraLife‏ @RyanTablada Apr 30
      Replying to @_mmun @wycats

      Ping @dgeb and @philsturgeon about learning from JSON schema

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Apr 30
      Replying to @RyanTablada @_mmun and

      I like GraphQL's scalar (and custom scalar) story w/ a handful of built-in collection types much more than JSON Schema's ad hoc set of built-in types.

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    7. Crashy McCiderface‏ @philsturgeon Apr 30
      Replying to @wycats @RyanTablada and

      Some slightly odd comparisons when missing context and snuck into short form, but I’m not sure what collection formats you’re talking about, and comparing GraphQL to JSON Schema is... tricky. One is opinionated, the other is extremely powerful.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Apr 30
      Replying to @philsturgeon @RyanTablada and

      I was talking about a rather narrow thing; apologies for making it seem like a larger critique. This is just a lot of "stuff" that isn't nicely layered; it feels like a kitchen sink. http://json-schema.org/latest/json-schema-validation.html#rfc.section.6 …

      1:37 PM - 30 Apr 2018
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        2. Crashy McCiderface‏ @philsturgeon Apr 30
          Replying to @wycats @RyanTablada and

          Are we talking about improving the format of the specification, the readability, or are you concerned there are too many features to consider, learn, support, etc?

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Apr 30
          Replying to @philsturgeon @RyanTablada and

          It's less about learning and more that it seems that JSON Schema has a kitchen sink of supported validations (anything anyone thought of), without any (obvious?) way to introduce custom ones. I'd have preferred a small set of built-in ones and a way to express custom ones.

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        4. Henry Andrews‏ @ixat_totep Apr 30
          Replying to @wycats @philsturgeon and

          A big focus of JSON Schema draft-08 is modularity and extensibilityhttps://github.com/json-schema-org/json-schema-spec/issues/561 …

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        5. Crashy McCiderface‏ @philsturgeon Apr 30
          Replying to @ixat_totep @wycats and

          @wycats if you look at JSON Schema as a type system then “lots of validation rules” looks a bit much, but if you look at it as a specification format, then this validation vocabulary doesn’t seem wild. It’s 25 keywords that do really useful stuff. Extensibility would be neat.

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        6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats May 1
          Replying to @philsturgeon @ixat_totep and

          I think a handful of keywords, an extensibility mechanism, and the rest of the builtins hosted on the mechanism is more-or-less what I expected. I think it's doable.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. Crashy McCiderface‏ @philsturgeon May 2
          Replying to @wycats @ixat_totep and

          You just described the validation vocabulary. I guess you’re suggesting an even smaller validation vocabulary and then punting things off to advance vocabularies, or moving towards user defined vocabularies and they make their own validations? That’s gonna be a pain in the butt.

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