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    1. Fabrice Desré‏ @fabricedesre Mar 31
      Replying to @wycats @asadotzler @pascalchevrel

      I can't give these numbers publicly, but FxOS what not a "bet the farm" project for Moz in $. It's just the scapegoat for the current leadership. The saddest thing is that now gecko is competitive again, with no useful product to propel.

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    2. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 31
      Replying to @fabricedesre @wycats @pascalchevrel

      At least 300 people worked on Firefox OS and everyone else in the technical organization was "on call". Our mobile browser team was in the single digits. Don't get me wrong, I loved Firefox OS. I worked on it and desperately wanted it to succeed. It was not a cheap failure.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 31
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      How many people are working on MR and associated projects now?

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    4. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 31
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      I don't actually know. Maybe 20 or so.

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 31
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      Are you including servo, which says it has been entirely repurposed as an MR vehicle?

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    6. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 31
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      BTW, Servo's major advancements have been or are being incorporated into Gecko. See Stylo (Quantum Style) and WebRender (Quantum Render). https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum  We're working on getting all that goodness into desktop and mobile Firefoxen.

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 31
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      I'm well aware of that. More effort on those advancements was deprioritized in favor of turning Servo into an AR vehicle.

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    8. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 31
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      I'm curious why you think Servo is such an important investment compared to say Gecko which is Mozilla's only viable implementation of the web. You seem bothered at Servo's deprioritization, and not at all concerned about the state of Gecko which is chronically underfunded, IMO.

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 31
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      I am concerned about Gecko underfunding. What would you estimate the total budget of Gecko engineering (the old "Platform" team) to be?

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    10. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 31
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      It may not be underfunding so much as under-resourced. I think it's hard in this market to find great platform hackers. We certainly don't win against the other guys in a bidding war.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 31
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      Talking to platform devs, it feels like morale issues, not money issues, are the main reason for losing people. If people felt great about the product and leadership, they'd leave less. As a microcosm: FF57 helped, but Mr. Robot hurt.

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        1. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 31
          Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

          We need more like 57 -- strong leadership, one simple goal, everyone working in the same direction. We have a more complex goal going forward because we're adding mobile but we have strong leadership and I think an org that knows it can build the best browsers in the world.

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          Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

          "As a microcosm: FF57 helped, but Mr. Robot hurt." Agreed 100%

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