This conversation started with a lot of criticism of FFOS. Yes, FFOS was a disaster. This kind of pendulum swing (BET THE FARM! NEVERMIND DEINVEST IN MOBILE!) is what's baffling
I'm more bothered by Servo being shifted from researching platform advancements to a speculative moonshot so soon after getting a payoff from earlier platform advancements. I don't think Servo needs drastically more Mozilla-funded resources.
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What is it that you want Servo to be?
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What it has been: a pipeline for risky web platform experiments that can make their web back into Gecko to make Gecko better. I don't particularly see any reason why good Gecko engineers couldn't take some time away from the grind to prototype ideas.
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If you want a way to keep great platform developers, giving them a chance to step away from the grind periodically to try out ideas they already have in a more prototype-friendly environment couldn't hurt.
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We agree. We've periodically had "R&D" that worked much like that, where core product engineers went off to try something revolutionary. On the app side you can see it with things like project Tofino. Before R&D we had "Labs" and before that, people just made time with no org.
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And of all of those things, Research and Servo have been the closest to consistently feeding new tech to Platform. I don't think Mozilla (or Gecko) is helped by moving back towards a Labs or "make time" model. Servo's success (as you described) means more like that, plz.
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I hear ya. What more do you want from Servo in the near term? It gave us an entirely new styling and rendering engine as well as a new memory safe language. Seems like we got a couple more years at least to integrate all of that into products and see it pay off.
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@pcwalton's Pathfinder seems promising, but more generally, the work towards web-compat completion is what made WebRender and Stylo close enough to consider integrating. Keeping projects warm and resourced is cheaper than rebooting them later. -
I may be out of date but I think Pathfinder is still a priority. Did you hear that development was stopped?
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