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    1. Fabrice Desré‏ @fabricedesre Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @wycats @pascalchevrel

      How large are IE and Safari teams? Likely not an order of magnitude larger than MoCo+contributors

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    2. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
      Replying to @fabricedesre @wycats @pascalchevrel

      If you count all the other businesses at those companies that are working to grow/cement their browsers market share, I'd say yes. Every web property including Search at Google, Windows and Bing at Microsoft, and iOS at Apple -- sure, 10 times as big if not more.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      These people surely don't count as required for "funding an implementation of the web" right?

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    4. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      More like building moats and leveraging monopolies around their particular implementations of the web. They aren't building the web platform, they're making it nearly impossible (or way more expensive) for anyone else to build the web platform.

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    5. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @wycats and

      So much so that the only two other significant investors in building the web platform are Samsung with it's hardware monopoly and Mozilla which is a non-profit.

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

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      I'm replying to this: https://twitter.com/the_real_jeffg/status/979800674660622336?s=19 … Which claims that simply implementing the web costs this much. Not true.

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    7. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      Because you say so? Or because you can point me to someone else that's done it for cheap?

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    8. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @wycats and

      Opera gave a pretty good run. I think they were about our size, maybe larger but not an order of magnitude larger, when they gave up and climbed on board the Google implementation of the web. And no one else even tries to build a real engine? Why is that? If it was cheap to do...

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      Do you just not count UC? Servo? Do you think Edge costs $500MM a year to build, maintain and document?

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    10. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
      Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      I wouldn't be surprised if Edge, if you include the full platform team and the marketing budget (or the market value of the free advertising from Bing that's allowed them to become a meaningful player) is in the same ballpark.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Mar 30
      Replying to @asadotzler @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

      It doesn't make sense to count Bing free marketing in the cost of implementing the web platform.

      7:02 PM - 30 Mar 2018
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        2. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
          Replying to @wycats @fabricedesre @pascalchevrel

          Marketing plays no role in the success or failure of a browser engine? I count marketing as one of the costs of building an implementation of the web platform. Mozilla spends on marketing. Search Bing for Firefox and see what you get. That Edge page takeover is worth millions.

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        3. Asa Dotzler‏ @asadotzler Mar 30
          Replying to @asadotzler @wycats and

          And the banner ads for Chrome that ran on Google's otherwise pristine search page and all across the Google web properties are ads we have to counter to make our engine viable. I count marketing a required part of the business of delivering an implementation of the web platform.

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