Doesn’t OSX have that too if a mouse is plugged in?
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Maybe, but it seems like I'm often the first person to notice it when I browse to some site on Windows.
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It only forces the the scroll bars when you have a non-apple mouse plugged in. If you have a “Magic Mouse” you get no scroll bars... magically?
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That's the magic. By magic if you're fully in the Apple ecosystem you build poorly usable websites for people outside of it ;)
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Install Parallels with a Windows instance and test in IE and Edge. Or use a service like BrowserStack. Dismissing cross browser compatibility isn't edgy, it's just lazy.
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You realize I agree with this, and that that was the point I was making, right?
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100%. I know when I'm in the right crowd.
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Maybe you just missed the Made for OS X badge in the footer?
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Good point!
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I'm a web dev using Windows and I test my work on OSX. Why aren't all the devs on OSX testing their stuff on Windows? It still has the biggest market share of all operating systems.
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That was basically my point. (I'm a Windows user btw)
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If you know a solution for this then let me know! One of my freelance client’s CMS’s is PLAUGED by this. They’re more likely to fix it if I tell them how.
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The only solution is to not nest a million overflow: auto/scrolls inside of each other because you tried it out on OSX and it seemed to work.
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This is often missed, not maliciously, but because oftentimes designers and developers don’t think about how Windows renders scroll bars, because macOS and mobile devices don’t render them, or render them overlaid
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Right, that was my point :)
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The worst “fix” for this I’ve seen is to introduce JavaScript to fake macOS-style scrollbars, which then introduce loads of bugs for all platforms :( Not just a design failure, it’s caused by a breakdown in design & dev collaboration.
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If you're using a normal usable mouse on Mac it will show scroll bars. If using magic mouse or trackpad it doesn't
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Yet another reason for people to care.
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How about avoiding nested scrolling whenever possible altogether? It’s just bad UX 99% of the time
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Not always easy. Ex: Iframe
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There are ways to avoid it even with iframes if you have control over the contents of the iframe. When you don’t, you might just be in the 1% of justifiable situations.
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