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So you’re a true believer in Web Packaging, then?
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I worked on the first draft when I was on TAG. Never wavered. Not sure whether AMP interest is helping or hurting, but if it ships I'll be thrilled.
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Note that it’s more than bundling now (e.g., signing of resources) and the bits Google seems to be prioritizing are not the bundling bits.
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Yep. That's what I mean by not sure how much AMP interest is helping.
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So we stalled getting to the thing you’re a true believer in because too many true believers paid attention to the thing that didn’t work out. Mind you, your thing hasn’t been deployed, but it’ll work out, right?
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I took your bait politely and you slammed me for it. Too bad. Bundling is a tried and true technique on the web that is by far the dominant solution today for significant-sized apps. Paving that cowpath is better than building a new speculative rube Goldberg.
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I baited you? How? You're using very pejorative terms, don't be surprised if you get pushback.
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https://esdiscuss.org/topic/generic-bundling#content-62 … basically halted the entire effort. Found via https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/commit/e5c1f60bce08f571b3da946560eeb3012776ab87 … which is somewhat amusing in hindsight.
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"And with HTTP 2.0 on near horizon, the limitation in number of requests is completely removed: we have full multiplexing, prioritization, flow control.. which is exactly where we want to go if we want to accelerate page load times."

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(4 years ago, near horizon)
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Yeah, I'm preaching to the choir. So sue me ;)
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Web Packages/Bundles, used for performance, have many of the same problems as Push: you don't know which resources to bundle. <link rel=preload> doesn't have this problem and only takes ~1RTT to kick in. The remaining issue is cross-resource compression.
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Cross resource compression is much simpler with a single payload, and bundles don't have the connection sharing problem. Those two are the biggest h2/push issues that I see as a prospective user.
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Yes, sorry, I should have said "the remaining issue *that bundles solve* is cross-resource compression." There is an HTTP-level proposal for doing the same thing, https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vkrasnov-h2-compression-dictionaries-03 …, which we should keep evaluating in parallel.
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