I have a thing about boning up on firearms tech as rhetorical self-defense for dumb Facebook arguments and went on a research jag about this last week. I don’t think this is a supportable argument. People really do hunt with AR-15s, and do so because they’re better tools.https://twitter.com/emilymaxima/status/963939286474280962 …
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Sure, people might use semi-automatics for hunting, but banning them doesn't make a policy overall "hunting unfriendly". It just makes it not as hunting friendly as you could possibly be.
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The 2nd amendment was never about hunting - it's about arming yourself against a tyranical government. You can argue it's naïve, anachronistic, or not worth the cost in murders; but saying it's for hunting is a strawman.
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The majority of all serving Supreme Court justices since the amendment was drafted disagree with you about that.
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They think the authors of the Constitution were so concerned about hunting rights that they made the second amendment to protect hunters, while talking about militias but not about hunting?
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No, the notion that 2A is about an individual right to resist a tyrannical government. Obviously, in a sense, all the amendments about resisting a tyrannical government, but 2A was for most of the last 200 years about states, not people.
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"the right of the people" is a weird way to phrase an amendment about jurisdiction, but IANASCJ. In either case, hunting is still a strawman.
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Heller is just 10 years old, and was a 5-4 decision. Every court before that found rational basis standard for 2A restrictions.
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Even if that weren’t true, a 5-4 decision would strongly suggest this issue is nowhere nearly as simple as RKBAs say it is. But, no, 5-4 and 221 preceding years of jurisprudence.
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What I hate about the American gun debate is that they act like it's the first place or time it's happening. Want lots of guns + safety? Look to Canada, Switzerland, or Israel! Want very few guns + safety? Look to Australia, Germany, or the UK! We've already figured this out.
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And with no disrespect
@wycats the problem isn't semi-automatics or carbines or pistols; the problem is a lack of cultural seriousness which leads to a lack of sane gun laws. I'd rather have full automatics and Canada's gun laws than simple 22 gauges and America's. -
It isn't about hunting at all. Most gun owners / users don't hunt. We try to hit clay plates or targets on the irons at 200 yards. But if you have a "yee-haw" attitude towards guns and you think using guns on dimly lit home invaders is rational then a lot more people die.
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