I think the argument is not that we should exclude developers but rather learning the basics should be encouraged, not looked at as lesser. We should emphasize a good foundation. Being a wizard of ES2017 is all good but to master the web you need a good understanding of browsers.
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You can be a professional basketball player without understanding the physics of basketball. You can be a professional web developer without knowing the HTML spec. If the tools help you think at a higher level, god bless them.
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I see your first point, but it would be naive to assume that a pro basketball player would not benefit from knowing the physics of it. And chances are that the very best do, and take that to their advantage
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Original tweet was "I'm proud of saying they don't belong in our craft". It's true that people benefit from knowing the deeper truths of their craft, but in this context, basketball players "belong" even if they don't know the physics. How can people learn if they don't belong?
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that's a sentence of a tweet taken out of context. That said, I do not agree with the gatekeeping at all, but I do understand where he's coming from. Part of my day involves telling other front-end developers how a browser works, and sometimes it's frustrating
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I don't think it's out of context. He said that if you don't already know how to use <link>, he's proud of saying they don't belong in our craft. I don't know what context you're saying I'm missing.
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The context is that everybody was attacking him because he said a developer should know how a browser works, and then he made the “craft” tweet.
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So if you’re being attacked and belittled by an angry mob, you’ll probably say and do things you don’t really mean
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I agree, the best thing about development is that it is full of different ideas, closing people off just reduces that. As I've said to other people before, every developer has to use stack overflow or Mozilla mdn at some point, we are all always learning.
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At some point? I’m using
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Luckily for us all this craft has grown (and is growing everyday) beyond thinking you need to memorize a set of tags to belong into it.
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Totally agree, constantly learning and be open to learning to key in any discipline
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This response is the reason I joined the Rails community 10 years ago.
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I have mixed feelings about this for a bunch of reasons. There are basic fundamental things that a front end developer should know if they want to go to the next level. But gate keeping is bad.
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So if a frontend developer doesn’t understand how the browser works, why http/2 is a step forward or why tools like webpack exist... sure I’ll tell that developer why, but some people commenting the thread treat that knowledge as archaic/useless
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After many years working as developer I learned that you can use <link> tag for things different than stylesheets while implementing a helper for <link rel="preload"/> on Rails core a couple of months ago:https://github.com/rails/rails/pull/31251 …
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