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    1. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich Jan 11
      Replying to @loretoparisi @littledan

      Because @standardjs among others enforces safe & cleaner low-semicolon style.

      4 replies 20 retweets 74 likes
    2. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 11
      Replying to @BrendanEich @loretoparisi and

      As long as your team is using @standardjs with up to date rules, they can feel free to ignore the recommendation. The recommendation is a good default for people who aren't thinking about what this need to do to mitigate the hazards. For @standardjs users, live free or die.

      3 replies 3 retweets 24 likes
    3. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich Jan 11
      Replying to @wycats @loretoparisi and

      Doesn't it seem more important, if the committee is going to start making recommendations, to recommend using a parsing linter if not a compiler?

      2 replies 6 retweets 20 likes
    4. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 11
      Replying to @BrendanEich @loretoparisi and

      Yehuda Katz  🥨 Retweeted Yehuda Katz  🥨

      https://twitter.com/wycats/status/951554864105967616 …

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨Verified account @wycats
      From TC39's perspective, it does not make sense for us to recommend a JavaScript style that requires using a linting tool.
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      3 replies 1 retweet 13 likes
    5. BrendanEich‏Verified account @BrendanEich Jan 11
      Replying to @wycats @loretoparisi and

      Justify your position. Also do not leave it ambiguous whether you reject recommending *one* such tool (I never advocated that) or any parsing linter (there are many).

      3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Gorgi Kosev‏ @spion Jan 11
      Replying to @BrendanEich @wycats and

      All JS styles require a linting tool. Mandatory use of semicolons requires a linting tool that will warn if you put a newline after `return`

      5 replies 5 retweets 13 likes
    7. Drew Hamlett‏ @drewhamlett Jan 12
      Replying to @spion @BrendanEich and

      More FUD around the use of semi colons, great.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Gorgi Kosev‏ @spion Jan 12
      Replying to @drewhamlett @BrendanEich and

      What do you mean? This problem is very real. Lots of semicolon proponents think that just adding semicolons everywhere will make everything safe.

      1 reply 1 retweet 5 likes
    9. Gorgi Kosev‏ @spion Jan 12
      Replying to @spion @drewhamlett and

      If not carefully worded, this recommendation has the potential to mislead countless developers into a false sense of security.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    10. Drew Hamlett‏ @drewhamlett Jan 12
      Replying to @spion @BrendanEich and

      This is sarcasm right? There are more rules around where and where not to use semi colons than there are in just leaving them out. If one couldn't learn the 2 rules then they could use @PrettierCode, @StandardJS, or eslint --fix which solve this problem over 35 years ago.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 12
      Replying to @drewhamlett @spion and

      What are the two rules?

      10:22 PM - 12 Jan 2018
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Drew Hamlett‏ @drewhamlett Jan 13
          Replying to @wycats @spion and

          1. Don't start a line with ( or [, and now `, 2. Code normally. Again this is something you haven't had to to think about in a long long time, if a linter has been used(which it should be on every team)

          3 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        3. vjeux ✪‏ @Vjeux Jan 13
          Replying to @drewhamlett @wycats and

          You also need < if using jsx

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Lucas Azzola‏ @lucasazzola Jan 13
          Replying to @Vjeux @drewhamlett and

          What about class properties?https://github.com/tc39/ecma262/pull/1062#issuecomment-357089404 …

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. vjeux ✪‏ @Vjeux Jan 13
          Replying to @lucasazzola @drewhamlett and

          the whole thread is about class properties introducing more ASI issues :)

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. Lucas Azzola‏ @lucasazzola Jan 13
          Replying to @Vjeux @drewhamlett and

          Yeah I know, which is why I mentioned them. It's not just ( [ ` < as a lot of people think.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Gorgi Kosev‏ @spion Jan 13
          Replying to @lucasazzola @Vjeux and

          Of those new examples, the worst one isn't fixed by always using semicolons. I can see people trying to put `async` on a separate line, especially once decorators get in.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 13
          Replying to @spion @lucasazzola and

          That issue would have been fixed by making semis mandatory in classes, which is perhaps what we should have done.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        9. Gorgi Kosev‏ @spion Jan 13
          Replying to @wycats @lucasazzola and

          Perhaps TC39 should make that a recommendation to themselves then 😆

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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