Anyway there's more here than I can unpack in tweets, and I need to go sleep. I understand your frustration with the lack of details, I think I do at least. I'll attempt to write longer about it in the morning :)
I think the difference between our mental models comes down to this: You're acting like telegram is a crank 12 year old flying rockets based on flat Earth theory so they can be safely ignored. I think of them (accurately) as one of the top chat programs in the world.
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Both can be true! 1) deploying crank crypto to millions of people doesn't stop it being crank crypto 2) how many of those millions even use the crypto? it's off by default. Can't be turned on for group messages. Most Telegram chats are going plaintext.
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So if you want to play the "millions of users" card, well, they're using plaintext, that's the end of the discussion. No crypto conference is going to accept your submission on breaking that! * by plaintext I mean "client-server encryption" which is tbh VERY SLOPPY on my part
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You should strive to avoid sloppiness that serves to add rhetorical heft to a weaker argument ;)
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