This is not analysis.pic.twitter.com/LoQ5zTzLLG
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I'm excited to see it. For reals.
I think it's useful to avoid freely swapping between "incompetence" and "malice" when analyzing what people are doing 
I need to apologise twice. One for this being 4,500 words and very rambly. I hope it still makes some kind of sense. Two for this containing nothing that you asked for ;) but hopefully it explains why you aren't getting that. https://txt.fyi/+/9c1ca7c5/
IMPORTANT CAVEAT: This is just like, my opinion, man. I'm not a cryptographer, I'm a security engineer, and I've just absorbed information about crypto from HN and IRC. Everything I say could be completely wrong. I haven't yet gotten peer review on this.
I'm gonna keep reading despite your assumption that building web stuff is easy, but we should have another conversation about that ;)
I'm sad that anything I said made it sound like I thought crypto wasn't very very hard or that it's reasonable to assume a particular new crypto algorithm works.
"I know it looks like we're being pedantic or even cliquey, but what's really happening is they've spotted a fatal flaw in the crypto." I don't feel anyone is being cliquey and I interpreted the first round of critiques in exactly this way.
I'm finding your post here problematic in much the same way as I was originally bothered by but there's more signal here (no pun intended).
"If a 12 year old comes into your IRC channel with their homegrown encryption algorithm, no-one's going to care when you break it, because no one thought it was sound in the first place." This is not a 12 yo. It's one of the most popular chat programs in the world.
And given that 1. people were interested in showing flaws in MTProto1, and 2. they cared enough to attempt to fix them in MTProto2, it seems like there's a reason to check MTProto2 and I bet papers would be accepted at conferences.
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