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    1. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @BenSpielberg @wycats

      Most state gov't spending goes toward education, health care, & public welfare programs. Certainly w/in the context of a tax system in which capital expenditures are expensed, employer-sponsored health insurance is excluded, & charitable contributions are deductible ... 3/

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    2. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @BenSpielberg @wycats

      ... states and their citizens should not face a tax penalty for providing those services collectively through civic institutions rather than via market mechanisms or the nonprofit sector. As for the claim that the SALT deduction is regressive ... 4/

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    3. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @BenSpielberg @wycats

      a) distributional effects of payroll tax proposal look very different from distribut'l effects of SALT deduction. Payroll tax proposal would allow itemizers **& nonitemizers** to pay for state & local gov't services w/pre-fed-tax $$$, which --> a much less skewed distribution 5/

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    4. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @BenSpielberg @wycats

      b) distributional effects need to be analyzed relative to the counterfactual in which state & local gov't services are paid for w/after-fed-tax $$$ (above $10k cap for the few remaining -- & generally high-income -- itemizers). 6/

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    5. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @wycats

      Or we can just reject this false notion that people are paying a “penalty” when they’re in fact just not getting a break they shouldn’t get. All of the tax breaks you mentioned should be eliminated. All income should be taxed the same, and at very high rates for wealthy people.

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    6. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @wycats

      Surely you don't really believe "income" is a self-defining concept. "Income" is what we choose to tax, & those choices reflect a range of values, administrability constraints, historical contingencies, & political realities. 1/

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    7. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @BenSpielberg @wycats

      My claim is that a normatively desirable definition of taxable income would accommodate a deduction for state & local taxes. It's no answer to say that all income should be taxed the same. cc @BorisBittker #BittkerSurreyDebate

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    8. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @wycats

      Income is not, in fact, a very difficult concept to define. I’m not really sure why you think it is.

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    9. Daniel Hemel‏ @DanielJHemel Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @wycats

      On behalf of everyone who has ever taught or taken an introductory income taxation course, I respectfully disagree.

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    10. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @DanielJHemel @wycats

      I strongly suspect you don’t speak for everyone in that category on this issue, and the fact that you think you do makes me worry a lot about what introductory tax courses consist of these days.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      I took intro tax courses in 2003ish. They consist of: - teaching you how to apply the tax code to a variety of scenarios - teaching you how to stay up to date over time as the tax law changes Since "income" is complex in the tax code, it's complex in tax classes.

      9:30 AM - 1 Jan 2018
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        2. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
          Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

          Right: it’s very complex in the code. It doesn’t have to be, which is my point.

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
          Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

          So why does it bother you that income tax courses treat income as being very complex? Introductory accounting courses give it a much simpler treatment, as you desire (I was an accounting major before I became a computer programmer).

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        4. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
          Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

          Oh, it doesn’t! It bothered me that Daniel seemed to be suggesting that income as a concept is too complex to simplify how we tax it, and the fact that I disagreed with him meant I didn’t understand the concept. If I misinterpreted that, my apologies.

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        5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
          Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

          Income in accounting is a simple accounting identity, which is a nice thing. The problem is that even if you tax on this basis, re-categorizing income becomes the next frontier.

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        6. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
          Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

          To clarify my position: it’s not I can eliminate gaming entirely. It’s that there is a much better way to tax that would reduce easy opportunities to game the system.

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