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    1. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      Why should states harm their own ability to collect taxes progressively in order to set up for a hypothetical future where Democrats are able to fix this bad tax bill?

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    2. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

      There’s no actual evidence that capping the state and local deduction harms states’ ability to collect revenue. People who dislike taxes will argue against them whether they’re deductible or not.

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    3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      The policies you're arguing against are things like switching to a progressive employer-side payroll tax. In Oregon (where I live), that would be a net-progressive change, and an opportunity to sell an improvement along these lines as a tax fix for bad federal policy.

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    4. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

      I’d be fine if we *added* an employer-side tax, not if we “switched” and reduced wages to do it.

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      Your objection would be to reducing take home wages or pre-tax wages?

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    6. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

      My objection is to a change with an eye towards revenue neutrality and preserving tax breaks for wealthy people. Our tax system needs to get more progressive and we need more revenues.

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    7. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      The change I'm talking about would be more progressive in terms of state revenue, and could be more easily sold because it would result in a net tax break for residents. That's a golden opportunity to make state taxes more progressive for unusually low political price.

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    8. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

      I’d be interested in seeing the details but the point I am making is also that buying into the framework that we must sell tax cuts is a losing proposition for progressive policy. (That’s what it sounded like Daniel was saying, which is why I liked his quote originally.)

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    9. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      Some of the policy options are here: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/28/16818680/state-local-tax-deduction-income-payroll-trump-tax-reform-republican … I personally like the options that result in more state revenue and more state progressivity. Since there's a very good chance multiple states will attempt this, it seems better ...

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    10. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      to get behind the more progressive, more revenue raising options (which will reshape tax policy in those states for a long time in a positive direction) than to oppose the idea on principle. The natural inertia is that this will pass in some places, but ...

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @BenSpielberg @DanielJHemel

      the inertia is behind the less progressive, revenue neutral version. States with blue trifectas can listen to left leaning think tanks, so you have an opportunity to move tax policy in a good direction. A crisis is a terrible thing to waste, whether you believe in it or not.

      9:03 AM - 1 Jan 2018
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        1. Ben Spielberg‏Verified account @BenSpielberg Jan 1
          Replying to @wycats @DanielJHemel

          I don’t believe in “wasting” anything. I believe in running Andrew Cuomo out of office and pushing states to enact better tax policy.

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