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    1.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1

      I stumbled across yet another most unnecessary "DevOps" tool for ensuring config files adhere to a structure, schema, & satisfy naming conventions. It was written in a dynamically typed language using a very stringly (weakly) typed API that they exposed to users for extension. /1

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    2.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1

      Inevitably (from prior experience with that same language) this will grow out of control maintenance wise. I now know it is more succinct to check the first two reqs listed in a language that offers ML-style types & anecdotally (having exp on both sides) yields more correct code.

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    3.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1

      I am curious if it would make sense to write about this by building an equivalent tool to do the same evolving it to use a variety of type-based and functional techniques? As an industry we could save so much effort if only people knew of these methods. No hate.

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    4.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1

      I do not mean to sound like there is anything novel in my approaches; these are tried and tested typed functional programming approaches to solving this class of problems. My suggestion is making it more accessible and applicable to the realm of "DevOps".

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    5. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @SusanPotter

      Rust's derive(Encode) and Decode style (which comes from the techniques you're talking about) works really well for me.

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    6. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats @SusanPotter

      That said, are you referring to Ruby as a stringly typed language? Or a different language?

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    7.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1
      Replying to @wycats

      I didn't want to bitch about one specific tool just because I found it this morning (it is just the latest non-optimally productive I've found), but it does much more than derive Encode. I think the approach to deriving the level of "linting" is cumbersome, incurring maint costs.

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      Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
      Replying to @SusanPotter

      I ask because I object to calling Ruby stringly typed even though I agree with the rest of your assessment. I understand your desire not to attack a language though :)

      8:50 AM - 1 Jan 2018
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        2.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1
          Replying to @wycats

          I didn't call the language stringly typed. I did call the *API* stringly typed. I have never called a language stringly/weakly typed because that would be absurd. I have called many implementations in the Ruby language stringly or weakly typed. I suggest you read. :)

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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
          Replying to @SusanPotter

          Sorry I really didn't want to get into a fight, just as you didn't want to! I just wanted to understand what you were saying :) I put my cards on the table specifically to avoid an argument. Sorry :(

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        2.  👻A Registered Voter 👻‏ @SusanPotter Jan 1
          Replying to @wycats

           👻A Registered Voter 👻 Retweeted  👻A Registered Voter 👻

          People see what they want to see so they can launch into attack mode but I have a hard time seeing where you saw me do this here in a genuine attempt to understand the original tweet.https://twitter.com/SusanPotter/status/947842295977693185 …

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           👻A Registered Voter 👻 @SusanPotter
          I stumbled across yet another most unnecessary "DevOps" tool for ensuring config files adhere to a structure, schema, & satisfy naming conventions. It was written in a dynamically typed language using a very stringly (weakly) typed API that they exposed to users for extension. /1
          Show this thread
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        3. Yehuda Katz  🥨‏Verified account @wycats Jan 1
          Replying to @SusanPotter

          I was definitely not trying to launch into attack mode and apologize if it came across that way. I talked about rust (and derive(Encode)) up front to show that we had some shared ideas about how to do this well.

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