Getting sick of that UX, I try to make that first messaging app default. Never could get normal texts back in that app.
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Replying to @richardiii
I'm trying to understand why Telegram doesn't serve your needs (since you already said it has to work outside of Android)
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Replying to @richardiii @wycats
So this forces other users to join also? At least on iOS it seems.
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Replying to @richardiii
Don't all chat systems "force" people to join in order to use them? Or are you looking for something that purely works as an optional SMS++?
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Replying to @richardiii
I guess Facebook Messenger does that? To be blunt, I don't find this aspect of iMessage to be good, as an Android user. It means my friends get angry at me when my mere presence in a chat "removes features" and there's nothing I can do about it.
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Replying to @wycats
It’s not that I overall like it either, but I’ve got older generation family on iOS, wife, friends. I just wanted a good sms client that was also accessible from a computer.
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Replying to @richardiii
Right, and I'm saying in practice this is just as bad as the thing you don't like except there's nothing I can do about it. Being an Android user in a friend group that uses iMessage is a mark of shame.
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Replying to @wycats @richardiii
iOS users just don't notice it because "everyone uses iMessage". It's really insidious.
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Incidentally, RCS is the real solution to this problem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services … Supports a surprising array of chat features and support is already announced by almost all carriers and Android Messages. But I doubt apple will support it. At least they could tho.
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